On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 22:23 +0100, Frank Peters wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > >>> I'm willing to give some help to the dev project. I'm almost exclusively > >>> interested in templates (more in Impress Templates than in other). I'm > >>> also quite interested in the website part presenting templates. > >>> Here is what I think I could do for the project: > >>> 1/ Revamp the templates page, with screenshots and a more modern way of > >>> presentation. No offense intended, but I believe the current > >>> presentation looks not good at all. People are are first looking at > >> In this context I'd like to raise two points: > >> > >> Why are templates part of the documentation project? Shouldn't they > >> rather be with art.oo.o? > > > > No. Templates are here from the beginning. If Marketing, and hence the > > subproject art, feel that theirs is a better place, the leads of the > > marketing project can ask. > > I am not asking why they were where they are. I am asking if > templates are a logical part of documentation.
Why not? On-line help is sort of in this category in that it has been closed until recently and seems to me to be less open than it might be. In that sense, having it in the doc project, which is open to contributions, is a bit strange too, Don't you think or is there some other item on the agenda? > > >> I would like to suggest a revamp of the doc.oo.o site in the > >> near future. No offense, Gerry, you're doing a great job, but I > >> think we should separate the portals for users seeking help and > >> contributors offering help more clearly. > > > > I am not alone, am I? Seems like it most days. There are many observers > > who, if they have the time and energy, could ask for a development role > > and take over the maintenance of the webpages. > > > > With respect to portals, I think that the documentation hosting of > > On-line Help is a bit counter-productive but it too is historical. > > I don't get how online help should not be hosted with docs > while templates are? If online help isn't documentation, > what else? > > What is the doc project's purpose? Provide help for users > of OOo in form of documentation of any kind and attract > contributors helping to improve that documentation. Do we > have a charter? Maybe I misunderstood that. Perhaps you first message was not clear. If seemed to me that you were suggesting that we fragment things even more than they are. No offence. > > > Perhaps you could propose to the council that a new project be created. > > This, of course, would mean many changes to Issue Tracker to accommodate > > such an event. > > No. What a strange idea to separate online help from the rest > of docs. Would you also make a new project for the FAQs? Ok. Then your suggestion is equally strange. Templates are an integral part of how we use OOo and aren't we fragmented enough. Afterall the templates we have had, not counting those from the contest, were accumulated from the start of the project. So back to why we need yet another fragmentation. Also, I should like to point out that a invoice template is hardly and art form :-) > > >> Aurélien, if you have any ideas about the "more modern way of > >> presenting", maybe we can use that for a consistent presentation > >> of the doc.oo.o pages? > >> > > > > I have not read Aurelien's intro yet but think that any ideas presented > > should be considered. However, who is going to implement them? Aurelien, > > do you wish to take on the task? > > Why not put planning before implementation and discuss what > the scope of such a project would be and agree on changes first? > I has been discussed and IIRC, you were going to help. (See the links in my message to Aurelien) Seems that we still have no screenshots. -- G. Roderick Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenOffice.org
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