Hi Frank,

Am Mittwoch 07 November 2007 schrieb Frank Peters:
> Andreas Mantke wrote:
> >>>>> Is it posible to get a server for plone-test-instance?
> >>>>> Inside Plone it is also posible to use a wiki (Zwiki) if
> >>>>> necessary.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know if it's a good idea to fork from the rest of
> >>>> the wiki. We'd need to have resources to maintain our
> >>>> own version of the CMS with all consequences.
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to split the wiki. I think - also there is a way
> >>> for a wiki inside plone - this  is not necessary for the work
> >>> with documentation. The functions of that framework are good
> >>> enough to produce and translate documentations (from faq to
> >>> tutorial or book). The members of OOoAuthors used and proved
> >>> it since a longer time ;-)
> >>
> >> If I understand you correctly, you're saying that we shouldn't
> >> be using the wiki at all for docs but a CMS like plone
> >> instead.
> >
> > only because it is easier to get the content inside the CMS and
> > get also without much afford a printable version (pdf).
>
> For book-type documentation you're right. But books are
> soooo 20th century ;-)
>

and you've never heard about a story with seven volumes from an 
english writer (not only for children) ;-)

> How about FAQs, modular Howtos...more modular and straightforward
> stuff, would that remain on the wiki. Meaning, should we use a
> "real" CMS just for authoring more advanced documents (like
> books)? Or would that system be used or all of it?
>

This plone product opens the door for every thing of documentation:
http://plone.org/products/plonehelpcenter
I think, it's the best way to keep all documentation in one place 
(also nat-lang).

> >> But the wiki is also very well suited for publishing that
> >> content. It's instant production. Working with plone would
> >> probably raise the bar for contributing again.
> >

I think, wiki is its program: fast fast ;-)
It's good for quick collaboration, especially for people on the same 
level of experience.
Because its goal is a fast product, its not so good for 
documentation of good quality (and your drafts are always 
published).

> > I don't actually see why the use of plone instead of the wiki
> > the bar of contributing raises. If I want to contribute inside
> > the wiki I had to get an account (same in plone).  Then I had
> > to learn the special tags of mediawiki, if I want to structure
> > my documentation (without a structure it would be a dessert).
> > There is actual no menubar for formating.
> > Inside a CMS like plone you get this menubar, looking similar
> > to a menubar in your office suite ;-)
> >
> >> Apart from that, we don't have a plone implemented inside OOo,
> >> and we would need to set something up and maintain it.
> >
> > That's right. I don't know if this is an real option.
>
> I am curious, I'll ask Jean, if I can get an account on
> OOoAuthors and play with it (is there a playground on
> OOoAuthors?).

I will ask Marko Möller, if it is posible to create a playground / 
testarea inside the new plone 3 of OOoAuthors.

Best regards,
Andreas
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