Correction: Xavier was suggesting we use https://github.com/druid-io/druid-io.github.io/blob/src/_layouts/redirect_page.html, the existing redirect system used by the Druid website.
I've opened PRs to do the community page migration test: https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid-website/pull/3 https://github.com/druid-io/druid-io.github.io/pull/591 On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:04 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote: > That sounds good to me. I would also consider adding canonical tags to all > druid.apache.org pages so we don't have druid.incubator.apache.org and > druid.apache.org both floating around (not to mention http/https version > of > both). > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:59 PM Jonathan Wei <jon...@apache.org> wrote: > > > For redirects, Xavier has suggested using > > https://help.github.com/en/articles/redirects-on-github-pages to > redirect > > to druid.apache.org as a way to transition before the domain migration > > occurs, and believes that it would have the same SEO effects as a 301 > > redirect after the new pages are indexed. > > > > I think we could try migrating the current Community page to > > druid.apache.org with Github redirects and canonical links pointing to > the > > https://druid.apache.org version. If that goes well, we could continue > > migrating more pages. > > > > What are the community's thoughts on that? > > > > Thanks, > > Jon > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:19 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > OpenOffice and Groovy both chose to sort of "meld" their classic and > > Apache > > > sites together: https://www.openoffice.org/, http://groovy-lang.org/. > > Note > > > how when you click around, you get shuttled between the classic domain > > and > > > the Apache domain. Some pages are available on both sites, like > > > http://groovy-lang.org/download.html and > > > https://groovy.apache.org/download.html (which don't use canonical > link > > > tags -- does not seem like a good example to follow!). > > > > > > NetBeans (still incubating) also has a "melded" site at > > > https://netbeans.org/ but doesn't seem to consider itself done yet. > They > > > are discussing plans on their lists & wiki to do redirects from > > > netbeans.org > > > to netbeans.apache.org: > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+Transition+Process > > > , > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ad10fb9d4c8fee571a2f6232b268a3b835f7b823d3a0983b84aeb18a@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E > > > . > > > As of today the domain has been donated to ASF, but the server is still > > run > > > by Oracle, so the plan doesn't seem to be finished yet. (WHOIS for > > > netbeans.org shows ASF as the registrant; netbeans.org resolves to > > > lb-netbeans-cms-adc.oracle.com.) > > > > > > The melded sites don't really seem better to me than redirecting all > urls > > > on the domain. I guess it depends on if we want to keep druid.io as > the > > > official domain forever, or if we think druid.apache.org is cooler. I > > > definitely think druid.apache.org is cooler so my vote is there :). > It's > > > also nice that it supports https. (druid.io does not today, since it's > > on > > > GitHub pages, which doesn't support https for custom domains.) > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:47 PM Charles Allen > > > <charles.al...@snap.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > Are there other projects who have transitioned an independently > > > successful > > > > domain name to an apache one? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 2:13 PM David Lim <david...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Who has control over the druid.io domain? Charles would that be > you? > > > > > > > > > > We'd need support from them for the DNS redirect. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Jonathan Wei <jon...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > We still need to complete the website migration to Apache > > > > infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll propose the following plan: > > > > > > > > > > > > Proposed Apache Druid website migration plan > > > > > > ======================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > These links have some previous discussion on the website > migration: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.apache.org_thread.html_7cae100b684e0b33e0adda993efea3d6088978700988a0ae632fdd80-40-253Cdev.druid.apache.org-253E&d=DwIBaQ&c=ncDTmphkJTvjIDPh0hpF_w&r=HrLGT1qWNhseJBMYABL0GFSZESht5gBoLejor3SqMSo&m=uPTu9gAHxe2KnNDGURBYp1G94UBX5LCRMknoapXwTwI&s=G1dTS7FlYGauxNOaQECZix2YwroWVCqJB-cT0nEeNwM&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_INFRA-2D17340&d=DwIBaQ&c=ncDTmphkJTvjIDPh0hpF_w&r=HrLGT1qWNhseJBMYABL0GFSZESht5gBoLejor3SqMSo&m=uPTu9gAHxe2KnNDGURBYp1G94UBX5LCRMknoapXwTwI&s=pwg0jE385gqei6EEEbxugKHWll7oyKoCloFc8ByhlUc&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > From the discussions above, the recommendation is to have 2 > > separate > > > > > repos > > > > > > for the website: one for source and another for built content > that > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > served. > > > > > > > > > > > > Generating site files > > > > > > ======================= > > > > > > > > > > > > The Apache site update process will be similar to our current > > > process. > > > > > > > > > > > > Current process: > > > > > > 1. Push changes to > > > > > https://github.com/druid-io/druid-io.github.io/tree/src > > > > > > 2. metamx bot picks up changes, builds, and commits to > > > > > > https://github.com/druid-io/druid-io.github.io/tree/master > > > > > > 3. https://github.com/druid-io/druid-io.github.io/tree/master is > > > > served > > > > > by > > > > > > github pages > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache process: > > > > > > 1. Push changes to > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid-website-src > > > > > > 2. Jenkins bot from Apache will build the website from source > repo, > > > > > commit > > > > > > to https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid-website > > > > > > 3. Apache Druid website will be served from the content in > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid-website (asf-site > > branch) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hosting and SEO > > > > > > ================ > > > > > > > > > > > > The Apache site will be hosted at druid.apache.org on Apache > > > > > > infrastructure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org_dev_project-2Dsite.html&d=DwIBaQ&c=ncDTmphkJTvjIDPh0hpF_w&r=HrLGT1qWNhseJBMYABL0GFSZESht5gBoLejor3SqMSo&m=uPTu9gAHxe2KnNDGURBYp1G94UBX5LCRMknoapXwTwI&s=_rHEo_asMXKypaunuBTXFkB6Ni3F6KqbEfkck18L7Ag&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > To preserve our search rankings, we can setup 301 redirects from > > the > > > > old > > > > > > druid.io site to the corresponding pages on the druid.apache.org > > > > site. ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__moz.com_learn_seo_redirection&d=DwIBaQ&c=ncDTmphkJTvjIDPh0hpF_w&r=HrLGT1qWNhseJBMYABL0GFSZESht5gBoLejor3SqMSo&m=uPTu9gAHxe2KnNDGURBYp1G94UBX5LCRMknoapXwTwI&s=lUeWU0dT9thy8gp11RO-Vry7zkYl_W4BXz01fyXJO0A&e= > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Github pages (which currently hosts the druid.io site) > > does > > > > not > > > > > > support 301 redirects, so we propose the following: > > > > > > - Setup a new Nginx server that will perform 301 redirects to > > > > > > druid.apache.org for the druid.io. Imply can host this if > needed. > > > > > > - Update the druid.io DNS entry to point to this new Nginx > server > > > > > > - Shut down Github pages hosting for druid.io > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition, we can also set canonical tags on our pages: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__moz.com_learn_seo_canonicalization&d=DwIBaQ&c=ncDTmphkJTvjIDPh0hpF_w&r=HrLGT1qWNhseJBMYABL0GFSZESht5gBoLejor3SqMSo&m=uPTu9gAHxe2KnNDGURBYp1G94UBX5LCRMknoapXwTwI&s=T8G2c6d4EbQ_YDLFQXVebcj0UN9FNrbpPY5Xq4LAR8w&e= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Action items > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > - Setup a Jenkins bot that builds the Apache website content from > > > > source > > > > > > - Get the Apache website up > > > > > > - Setup Nginx redirect server for druid.io > > > > > > - Shutdown github pages and redirect DNS for druid.io to Nginx > > > > redirect > > > > > > server > > > > > > - Add canonical tags to pages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
