I am still not following
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4
mentors

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道:

> Hi Sheng,
>
> Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more than
> willing
> to include mentors here.
>
> After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as roaster
> committer
> number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no
> problem
> here.
>
> Updated list of members: (21 people)
> c...@apache.org              Jaska
> clemmakesa...@apache.org     Clement Ho
> d...@apache.org              Houjin Huang
> deqin...@apache.org          Deqing Li
> dexter...@apache.org         Jian Cui
> error...@apache.org          Rui Dong
> ke...@apache.org             Feng Lin
> kmcgr...@apache.org          Kevin A. McGrail
> ovi...@apache.org            Wenli Zhang
> san...@apache.org            Tianjiao Han
> she...@apache.org            Yi Shen
> sushu...@apache.org          Shuang Su
> susiw...@apache.org          Siwen Su
> ted...@apache.org            Ted Liu
> wan...@apache.org            Junting Wang
> wan...@apache.org            Zhongxiang Wang
> w...@apache.org              Dave Fisher
> wush...@apache.org           Sheng Wu
> yi...@apache.org             Huang Yixiu
> yufen...@apache.org          Feng Yu
> za...@apache.org             Zak Wu
>
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道:
> >
> > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president name
> in
> > > the
> > > vote email.
> > >
> > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all
> > those
> > > initial
> > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects.
> > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list
> and
> > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts.
> > >
> > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical
> > order)
> > > c...@apache.org              Jaska
> > > clemmakesa...@apache.org     Clement Ho
> > > d...@apache.org              Houjin Huang
> > > deqin...@apache.org          Deqing Li
> > > dexter...@apache.org         Jian Cui
> > > error...@apache.org          Rui Dong
> > > ke...@apache.org             Feng Lin
> > > san...@apache.org            Tianjiao Han
> > > she...@apache.org            Yi Shen
> > > sushu...@apache.org          Shuang Su
> > > susiw...@apache.org          Siwen Su
> > > ovi...@apache.org            Wenli Zhang
> > > wan...@apache.org            Junting Wang
> > > wan...@apache.org            Zhongxiang Wang
> > > yi...@apache.org             Huang Yixiu
> > > yufen...@apache.org          Feng Yu
> > > za...@apache.org             Zak Wu
> > >
> >
> > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member,
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. Which
> > side is right?
> > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC,
> > default is yes.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from [1]:
> > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one vote
> > on
> > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a PMC
> > > chair is
> > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of
> > > their project.
> > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> be
> > > aware of
> > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working
> > with
> > > the PMC
> > > as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > >
> > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. During
> > > incubation,
> > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. And
> I
> > > have
> > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue
> > > contributing
> > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache ECharts a
> > > better
> > > community.
> > >
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> are
> > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> > > soon.
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one
> opposes.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > *Ovilia*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated
> tools.
> > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further
> > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list.
> > > >>
> > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining.
> > > >>
> > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in
> dev@echarts
> > > >> mailing list soon.
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> *Ovilia*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with
> graduation.
> > We
> > > >>> really appreciate it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2].
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a
> vote.
> > So
> > > >>> please
> > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [1]
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > >>> [2]
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <m...@preset.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to
> > > >>>> introduce
> > > >>>> myself and offer some help.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow (top
> > > >>>> level)
> > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community is
> > > >>>> currently
> > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal for
> > > using
> > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library
> > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>,
> > looking
> > > >>>> forward to collaborate!
> > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation
> > > >>>> process as
> > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a checklist
> > and
> > > >>>> items
> > > >>>> you're looking for help/support?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Max
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <quillq...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official and
> > > >>>> > community, including:
> > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external
> > content
> > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like
> > “this
> > > >>>> is not
> > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting
> > > >>>> announcement on
> > > >>>> > websites.
> > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service but
> > also
> > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version
> and
> > it
> > > >>>> is not
> > > >>>> > for re-distributing.
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > Quill
> > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my
> > > nickname)
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日,20:54,Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 写道:
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道:
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> source
> > > >>>> package
> > > >>>> > is
> > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> > is
> > > a
> > > >>>> > change
> > > >>>> > >> or
> > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> no
> > > one
> > > >>>> would
> > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> about
> > > >>>> that, the
> > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build
> > script
> > > >>>> used
> > > >>>> > on
> > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted.
> > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k
> > > >>>> developers
> > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday.
> > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to
> build
> > > from
> > > >>>> > source
> > > >>>> > >> in local.
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the gerneral@incubator
> ,
> > > to
> > > >>>> check
> > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than removing
> > it.
> > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation on
> > > that
> > > >>>> page,
> > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least.
> > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary env,
> > then
> > > >>>> you
> > > >>>> > just
> > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the
> pre-requirement
> > > >>>> env have
> > > >>>> > > been installed correctly.
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > >>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道:
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > includes
> > > >>>> all
> > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > > >>>> official
> > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is
> bringing
> > > the
> > > >>>> local
> > > >>>> > >>> CLI
> > > >>>> > >>>> to the web.
> > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have
> been
> > > >>>> voted.
> > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser.
> > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js file
> > on
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>> browser.
> > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file.
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local CLI
> is
> > > >>>> all the
> > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser.
> > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause
> > potential
> > > >>>> risks
> > > >>>> > >> in
> > > >>>> > >>>> it.
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download
> source
> > > >>>> package
> > > >>>> > is
> > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern.
> > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether there
> > is
> > > a
> > > >>>> > change
> > > >>>> > >> or
> > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And
> no
> > > one
> > > >>>> would
> > > >>>> > >>> check.
> > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation
> about
> > > >>>> that, the
> > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements.
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> Regards.
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu <
> > > >>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. I
> > > >>>> thought it
> > > >>>> > >>>> meant
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't
> > > realize
> > > >>>> it
> > > >>>> > >>> means
> > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the
> > > community,
> > > >>>> > >>>> something
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted
> on a
> > > >>>> Baidu
> > > >>>> > >>>> server
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and
> list
> > it
> > > >>>> > >>> somewhere
> > > >>>> > >>>>> as
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of
> > > >>>> community/ecosystem.
> > > >>>> > >> And
> > > >>>> > >>>> not
> > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the
> Apache
> > > >>>> ECharts.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] and
> > the
> > > >>>> > >> current
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is
> this
> > a
> > > >>>> > >> problem?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are
> > links
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>> related
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs
> > about
> > > >>>> links
> > > >>>> > >> to
> > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd
> > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security
> > issue
> > > >>>> when
> > > >>>> > >>> those
> > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as
> > enhancement,
> > > >>>> > >>> iteration.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't
> > put a
> > > >>>> "help
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate
> and
> > it
> > > >>>> > >> should
> > > >>>> > >>> be
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a "(in
> > > >>>> Chinese)"
> > > >>>> > >>> note
> > > >>>> > >>>>> in
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they
> > could
> > > >>>> finish
> > > >>>> > >>>> those
> > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I hope
> to
> > > >>>> ease
> > > >>>> > >> other
> > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the
> > least
> > > >>>> > >> source
> > > >>>> > >>>>> files
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> required.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not using
> > the
> > > >>>> source
> > > >>>> > >>>> files
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the
> > source
> > > >>>> file
> > > >>>> > >>> from
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does
> that
> > > >>>> seem to
> > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > >>>> > >>>>> for
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> you?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which
> > includes
> > > >>>> all
> > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is an
> > > >>>> official
> > > >>>> > >>>> apache
> > > >>>> > >>>>> release.
> > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if
> you
> > > >>>> prefer
> > > >>>> > >> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to
> repackage
> > > the
> > > >>>> > >> source
> > > >>>> > >>>>> code?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1]
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2]
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3]
> https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> > > >>>> > >>> kmcgr...@apache.org>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do remember
> > > there
> > > >>>> was
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together.   All it is doing is testing
> > for
> > > >>>> this
> > > >>>> > >>>>> policy:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check in
> > the
> > > >>>> > >>>> incubator,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it
> > with
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is
> that?
> > > >>>> From
> > > >>>> > >> my
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s)
> this
> > > >>>> repo?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the
> > > >>>> > >> differences
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> between
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is
> any
> > > >>>> > >> official
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> release
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could
> you
> > > >>>> > >> clarify
> > > >>>> > >>>> what
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are
> > > >>>> > >>> configuration
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, and
> do
> > > you
> > > >>>> > >>> have
> > > >>>> > >>>>> open
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website
> > > download
> > > >>>> > >>> page,
> > > >>>> > >>>>> how
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the
> ASF
> > > >>>> > >> release
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, no
> > > >>>> binary)
> > > >>>> > >>> is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> never
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you provide
> > the
> > > >>>> > >> users
> > > >>>> > >>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted source
> > > tars
> > > >>>> > >> make
> > > >>>> > >>>> me
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other
> mentors
> > > >>>> > >> think?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 上午10:25写道:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related
> documents
> > > and
> > > >>>> > >> see
> > > >>>> > >>> if
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su <
> > > >>>> susiw...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all
> rules
> > > of
> > > >>>> > >>>> Apache,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I
> > > haven't
> > > >>>> > >>> work
> > > >>>> > >>>>> with
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin
> Zhifeng
> > > and
> > > >>>> > >> Mr
> > > >>>> > >>>> Dong
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even
> thought
> > > they
> > > >>>> > >>>> haven't
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change the
> > fact
> > > >>>> > >> that
> > > >>>> > >>>> they
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as
> PMC
> > in
> > > >>>> > >>> future
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> would
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail
> > list
> > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> great
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else would
> > > >>>> "steal"
> > > >>>> > >>> it,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which
> > lots
> > > of
> > > >>>> > >>>> people
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> know
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wan...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四
> > > >>>> 下午12:57写道:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of
> > podling
> > > >>>> > >>> website
> > > >>>> > >>>>> and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on
> > email
> > > >>>> > >>> without
> > > >>>> > >>>>> any
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email
> clients
> > > >>>> don’t
> > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a leak
> > of
> > > >>>> > >>> content
> > > >>>> > >>>> if
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s better
> to
> > > >>>> > >> enable
> > > >>>> > >>>>> email
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw
> > password
> > > or
> > > >>>> > >> any
> > > >>>> > >>>>> other
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email by
> > > some
> > > >>>> > >>>> advanced
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing list
> or
> > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should
> > > always
> > > >>>> > >> keep
> > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts
> > > >>>> project.
> > > >>>> > >>> As I
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> know,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and
> > > develop
> > > >>>> by
> > > >>>> > >>> his
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia <
> oviliazh...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>> > >> wrote:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and grown a
> > lot
> > > >>>> > >> since
> > > >>>> > >>>> our
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about
> > > whether
> > > >>>> > >> we
> > > >>>> > >>>> are
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this
> > > >>>> discussion,
> > > >>>> > >> we
> > > >>>> > >>>> can
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> set
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote
> and
> > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the
> community
> > > [1]
> > > >>>> > >> and
> > > >>>> > >>>> now
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6
> different
> > > >>>> > >>> companies.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have
> 79
> > > >>>> people
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3];
> > > release
> > > >>>> > >>> guide
> > > >>>> > >>>> is
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> at
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project during
> > > >>>> > >> incubation
> > > >>>> > >>>> [9]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available at
> > [5]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name
> searching
> > > has
> > > >>>> > >>> been
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss:
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, document,
> > and
> > > >>>> so
> > > >>>> > >> on
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. You
> > may
> > > >>>> > >> help
> > > >>>> > >>>>> check
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN to
> > > >>>> improve
> > > >>>> > >>>> speed
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> in
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not
> sure
> > > how
> > > >>>> > >> we
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the
> password
> > > on
> > > >>>> > >> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>> private
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide [4]
> > > >>>> depends
> > > >>>> > >>> on
> > > >>>> > >>>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it?
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial
> PPMCs
> > > that
> > > >>>> > >> had
> > > >>>> > >>>> no
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide on
> > each
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>> > >>>> them,
> > > >>>> > >>>>> do
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, it's
> > > >>>> decided
> > > >>>> > >> by
> > > >>>> > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project,
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this.
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5]
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6]
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, 2018"`
> > on
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> > >>>> master
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia*
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > >>>> dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >>>> > >> dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>> --
> > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen
> > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > >>>> > >>>>
> > > >>>> > >>>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> > >> --
> > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen
> > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> > > >>>> > >>
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
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