The roaster shows 21 people: 4 mentors; 11 PPMC members if not counting mentors (you can count the list of PPMC (15)); 6 committers if not counting mentors and PPMC members.
So 15 is the sum of mentors and PPMC members, and "Committers (21)" is the sum of mentors, PPMC members and non-PPMC committers. Thanks *Ovilia* On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:26 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am still not following > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts Roster shows 15 PPMC + 4 > mentors > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:22写道： > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > Sorry I didn't know mentors should be included. Of course we are more > than > > willing > > to include mentors here. > > > > After adding mentors, the list has 21 members, which is the same as > roaster > > committer > > number. The number 15 includes mentor but not committers so there is no > > problem > > here. > > > > Updated list of members: (21 people) > > c...@apache.org Jaska > > clemmakesa...@apache.org Clement Ho > > d...@apache.org Houjin Huang > > deqin...@apache.org Deqing Li > > dexter...@apache.org Jian Cui > > error...@apache.org Rui Dong > > ke...@apache.org Feng Lin > > kmcgr...@apache.org Kevin A. McGrail > > ovi...@apache.org Wenli Zhang > > san...@apache.org Tianjiao Han > > she...@apache.org Yi Shen > > sushu...@apache.org Shuang Su > > susiw...@apache.org Siwen Su > > ted...@apache.org Ted Liu > > wan...@apache.org Junting Wang > > wan...@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang > > w...@apache.org Dave Fisher > > wush...@apache.org Sheng Wu > > yi...@apache.org Huang Yixiu > > yufen...@apache.org Feng Yu > > za...@apache.org Zak Wu > > > > > > Thanks > > > > *Ovilia* > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月14日周五 下午3:08写道： > > > > > > > It seems I need to include the initial members and vice president > name > > in > > > > the > > > > vote email. > > > > > > > > Based on previous discussion, I think it might be best if we take all > > > those > > > > initial > > > > PPMC members to be our PMC members if no one objects. > > > > And add our new PPMC members during incubation in the PMC member list > > and > > > > current committers to be committers of Apache ECharts. > > > > > > > > So the full list of initial members would be: (email in alphabetical > > > order) > > > > c...@apache.org Jaska > > > > clemmakesa...@apache.org Clement Ho > > > > d...@apache.org Houjin Huang > > > > deqin...@apache.org Deqing Li > > > > dexter...@apache.org Jian Cui > > > > error...@apache.org Rui Dong > > > > ke...@apache.org Feng Lin > > > > san...@apache.org Tianjiao Han > > > > she...@apache.org Yi Shen > > > > sushu...@apache.org Shuang Su > > > > susiw...@apache.org Siwen Su > > > > ovi...@apache.org Wenli Zhang > > > > wan...@apache.org Junting Wang > > > > wan...@apache.org Zhongxiang Wang > > > > yi...@apache.org Huang Yixiu > > > > yufen...@apache.org Feng Yu > > > > za...@apache.org Zak Wu > > > > > > > > > > Based on the roaster, you only have 15 PPMC member, > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/echarts, here is 17 people. > Which > > > side is right? > > > And, traditionally, mentors should be asked whether to stay in the PMC, > > > default is yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More information on the vice president (chair of the project) from > [1]: > > > > > PMC Chairs - who are VPs - serve as normal PMC members, with one > vote > > > on > > > > project matters just like other PMC members. The primary duty of a > PMC > > > > chair is > > > > providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status > of > > > > their project. > > > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and > > be > > > > aware of > > > > any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working > > > with > > > > the PMC > > > > as a whole to address any board concerns. > > > > > > > > As for vice president candidate, I would like to be a volunteer. > During > > > > incubation, > > > > I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. > And > > I > > > > have > > > > been writing incubation report since then. I would like to continue > > > > contributing > > > > and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache > ECharts a > > > > better > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you > > are > > > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our > vote > > > > soon. > > > > > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal > > > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > *Ovilia* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:01 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I will open a vote in the dev mailing list tomorrow if no one > > opposes. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > *Ovilia* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > > >> > > > > >> We've updated our Website, added links in navbar and translated > > tools. > > > > >> We keep the custom download page unchanged and may have a further > > > > >> discussion when in general incubator mailing list. > > > > >> > > > > >> Please check and comment if there's a problem remaining. > > > > >> > > > > >> If not, we shall start a community graduation vote [1] in > > dev@echarts > > > > >> mailing list soon. > > > > >> > > > > >> [1] > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> *Ovilia* > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:57 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Thanks Max for both choosing ECharts and helping us with > > graduation. > > > We > > > > >>> really appreciate it. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Our maturity model is available at [1] and checklist is [2]. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are currently discussing potential blocks before we start a > > vote. > > > So > > > > >>> please > > > > >>> tell us if you find something should be changed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [1] > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts > > > > >>> [2] > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/ECharts+Graduation+Check+List > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *Ovilia* > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:43 AM Maxime Beauchemin <m...@preset.io > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Hi all! I recently subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to > > > > >>>> introduce > > > > >>>> myself and offer some help. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> My name is Max and I'm the original creator of Apache Airflow > (top > > > > >>>> level) > > > > >>>> and Apache Superset (soon to graduate). The Superset community > is > > > > >>>> currently > > > > >>>> voting on this Superset Improvement Proposal [SIP-50] Proposal > for > > > > using > > > > >>>> ECharts as our main charting library > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418>, > > > looking > > > > >>>> forward to collaborate! > > > > >>>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/10418> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I wanted to see how we might be able to help ECharts' graduation > > > > >>>> process as > > > > >>>> we kick off our process for Superset. Do you all have a > checklist > > > and > > > > >>>> items > > > > >>>> you're looking for help/support? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Max > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:43 AM Sheng Qian <quillq...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > I agree with softer way raising concern between ASF official > and > > > > >>>> > community, including: > > > > >>>> > - Using different domain other than Apache hosting external > > > content > > > > >>>> > including Gallery, Extension, etc. Marking out something like > > > “this > > > > >>>> is not > > > > >>>> > officially distributed by ASF” just like cookie collecting > > > > >>>> announcement on > > > > >>>> > websites. > > > > >>>> > - For customized build service on browser, keep the service > but > > > also > > > > >>>> > stated out builded version can not represent official version > > and > > > it > > > > >>>> is not > > > > >>>> > for re-distributing. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Quill > > > > >>>> > (Actually another Sheng but to avoid confusion I will use my > > > > nickname) > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > 在 2020年8月3日，20:54，Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 写道： > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午7:21写道： > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download > > source > > > > >>>> package > > > > >>>> > is > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern. > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether > there > > > is > > > > a > > > > >>>> > change > > > > >>>> > >> or > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And > > no > > > > one > > > > >>>> would > > > > >>>> > >>> check. > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation > > about > > > > >>>> that, the > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements. > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >> I think I get your point. An important reason is the build > > > script > > > > >>>> used > > > > >>>> > on > > > > >>>> > >> the custom builder page is not been checked and voted. > > > > >>>> > >> I agree to remove this page. But there are still about 1.5k > > > > >>>> developers > > > > >>>> > >> using this online tool everyday. > > > > >>>> > >> We should take it carefully to guide these developers to > > build > > > > from > > > > >>>> > source > > > > >>>> > >> in local. > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > I think you could start a discussion in the > gerneral@incubator > > , > > > > to > > > > >>>> check > > > > >>>> > > others' ideas. Maybe they have a better solution than > removing > > > it. > > > > >>>> > > For that page, I think you could have a terminal simulation > on > > > > that > > > > >>>> page, > > > > >>>> > > and guide users on how to use the local command at least. > > > > >>>> > > Or provide a docker image, which including all necessary > env, > > > then > > > > >>>> you > > > > >>>> > just > > > > >>>> > > provide one command. Docker image could make the > > pre-requirement > > > > >>>> env have > > > > >>>> > > been installed correctly. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > >>>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >> Thanks > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 4:28 PM Sheng Wu < > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>> > wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午4:14写道： > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Sheng > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which > > > includes > > > > >>>> all > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is > an > > > > >>>> official > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> I want to explain it a bit more. What we thought is > > bringing > > > > the > > > > >>>> local > > > > >>>> > >>> CLI > > > > >>>> > >>>> to the web. > > > > >>>> > >>>> In which developers can > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> 1. Choose a version from the source tar list which have > > been > > > > >>>> voted. > > > > >>>> > >>>> 2. Download the tar and check sha512 on the browser. > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3. Unzip the tar and build the source into a single js > file > > > on > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>> browser. > > > > >>>> > >>>> 4. Download the customized built js file. > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> I guess the main difference between this and the local > CLI > > is > > > > >>>> all the > > > > >>>> > >>>> processes are on the browser. > > > > >>>> > >>>> Please remind us if we missed anything that may cause > > > potential > > > > >>>> risks > > > > >>>> > >> in > > > > >>>> > >>>> it. > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> From my side, this is not the difference. The download > > source > > > > >>>> package > > > > >>>> > is > > > > >>>> > >>> never been voted is my concern. > > > > >>>> > >>> I know the logically, it is just a subset, but whether > there > > > is > > > > a > > > > >>>> > change > > > > >>>> > >> or > > > > >>>> > >>> unexpected files in the final download, we don't know. And > > no > > > > one > > > > >>>> would > > > > >>>> > >>> check. > > > > >>>> > >>> The whole vote/check process is for manual confirmation > > about > > > > >>>> that, the > > > > >>>> > >>> source release is 100% following the ASF requirements. > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > >>>> > >>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> Regards. > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:03 PM Sheng Wu < > > > > >>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>> > >>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 下午2:52写道： > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Sheng for the checking. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Here're my thoughts on these issues: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 1. I was referring to [1] when checking the navigator. > I > > > > >>>> thought it > > > > >>>> > >>>> meant > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> if there's a > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> "Sponsorship" link, it should link to xxx but I didn't > > > > realize > > > > >>>> it > > > > >>>> > >>> means > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> link is > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> mandatory. The following link should be added: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Sponsorship, Thanks, Apache Software Foundation. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Use this to check the potential issue. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/echarts.html > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 2. Gallery is a place to host ECharts works from the > > > > community, > > > > >>>> > >>>> something > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> similar > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> to jsfiddle or codepen. The server is currently hosted > > on a > > > > >>>> Baidu > > > > >>>> > >>>> server > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and we don't > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> have a current plan to donate it to ASF. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about removing the project from the navigator and > > list > > > it > > > > >>>> > >>> somewhere > > > > >>>> > >>>>> as > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> a > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> community resource? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Agree, should make it clear, that is a part of > > > > >>>> community/ecosystem. > > > > >>>> > >> And > > > > >>>> > >>>> not > > > > >>>> > >>>>> a part of ASF or Apache release. They just extend the > > Apache > > > > >>>> ECharts. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 3. Theme files are included in the source release [2] > and > > > the > > > > >>>> > >> current > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-theme page > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> uses convenient binary files hosted on our server. Is > > this > > > a > > > > >>>> > >> problem? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Extensions are mostly made by the community so they are > > > links > > > > >>>> to > > > > >>>> > >>>> related > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> GitHub projects. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think we should put a more clear instruction on the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> download-extention page [3] that > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> these projects are made by the community. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> I just prefer to provide a clear statement and catalogs > > > about > > > > >>>> links > > > > >>>> > >> to > > > > >>>> > >>>> 3rd > > > > >>>> > >>>>> party extensions, or Apache release. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> That includes, how and where to report the bug/security > > > issue > > > > >>>> when > > > > >>>> > >>> those > > > > >>>> > >>>>> extensions have issues. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Also, where should hold their discussion, such as > > > enhancement, > > > > >>>> > >>> iteration. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 4. The tools are currently under translation. We didn't > > > put a > > > > >>>> "help > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> translate" note because > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> we have already found the people who wish to translate > > and > > > it > > > > >>>> > >> should > > > > >>>> > >>> be > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> done within a few > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> weeks. Before then, the English Website will have a > "(in > > > > >>>> Chinese)" > > > > >>>> > >>> note > > > > >>>> > >>>>> in > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the navigator. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> Good to know the progress. Could you check whether they > > > could > > > > >>>> finish > > > > >>>> > >>>> those > > > > >>>> > >>>>> before the graduation discussion in the incubator? I > hope > > to > > > > >>>> ease > > > > >>>> > >> other > > > > >>>> > >>>>> people's concern. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> 5. The custom build is used to build a release with the > > > least > > > > >>>> > >> source > > > > >>>> > >>>>> files > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> required. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> I think the biggest concern here is that it is not > using > > > the > > > > >>>> source > > > > >>>> > >>>> files > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> voted. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> How about we change the Web front-end logic to get the > > > source > > > > >>>> file > > > > >>>> > >>> from > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Apache SVN > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> that has been voted, to build and be downloaded? Does > > that > > > > >>>> seem to > > > > >>>> > >>> work > > > > >>>> > >>>>> for > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> you? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> The point is, you only vote for the source tar, which > > > includes > > > > >>>> all > > > > >>>> > >>>>> contents, with an ASC and sha512 sign. So, only that is > an > > > > >>>> official > > > > >>>> > >>>> apache > > > > >>>> > >>>>> release. > > > > >>>> > >>>>> If you provide downloads to that only, it is OK. Or, if > > you > > > > >>>> prefer > > > > >>>> > >> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>> custom mode, do you could provide a local tool to > > repackage > > > > the > > > > >>>> > >> source > > > > >>>> > >>>>> code? > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [1] > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [2] > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/4.8.0/ > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> [3] > > https://echarts.apache.org/en/download-extension.html > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Thanks > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> *Ovilia* > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Kevin A. McGrail < > > > > >>>> > >>> kmcgr...@apache.org> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> I do not know about the links checker but I do > remember > > > > there > > > > >>>> was > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> something cobbled together. All it is doing is > testing > > > for > > > > >>>> this > > > > >>>> > >>>>> policy: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/2/2020 10:56 PM, Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Ovilia > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't remember, but there is a website link check > in > > > the > > > > >>>> > >>>> incubator, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> does > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone/mentor remember this? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> From I read from your website, questions > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 1. There are some links missing. You could compare it > > > with > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> http://skywalking.apache.org/ links menu. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. There is a menu, called Gallary Chinese. What is > > that? > > > > >>>> From > > > > >>>> > >> my > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> reading, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> it seems more like extensions/plugins? Who owns (s) > > this > > > > >>>> repo? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 3. Download part, theme, and extension, what are the > > > > >>>> > >> differences > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> between > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> these two and Gallary? And I don't remember there is > > any > > > > >>>> > >> official > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> release > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process(vote/license check, etc.) about these. Could > > you > > > > >>>> > >> clarify > > > > >>>> > >>>> what > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> they > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> are? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 4. About the tool(s). From my understanding, they are > > > > >>>> > >>> configuration > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> generation for ECharts, why they are Chinese only, > and > > do > > > > you > > > > >>>> > >>> have > > > > >>>> > >>>>> open > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> process about how to contribute on these tools? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> 5. I noticed `Option 3: Custom Build` on the website > > > > download > > > > >>>> > >>> page, > > > > >>>> > >>>>> how > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> this works? I am a little worried about it breaks the > > ASF > > > > >>>> > >> release > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> process. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Because, the source release(js mostly is not source, > no > > > > >>>> binary) > > > > >>>> > >>> is > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> never > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> being voted. I could get the points, seems you > provide > > > the > > > > >>>> > >> users > > > > >>>> > >>> to > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> get a > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> subset of the entire source tar. But the unvoted > source > > > > tars > > > > >>>> > >> make > > > > >>>> > >>>> me > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> unsure > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> whether this is acceptable in the ASF. What other > > mentors > > > > >>>> > >> think? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月3日周一 > 上午10:25写道： > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear mentors, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you help us review the graduation related > > documents > > > > and > > > > >>>> > >> see > > > > >>>> > >>> if > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> there is > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> something > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> to be improved? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Ovilia* > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:59 AM siwen su < > > > > >>>> susiw...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have nothing to say about website, It apply all > > rules > > > > of > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> and > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> most > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> importantly, add some very useful features. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About reserving initial PPMC qualification, since I > > > > haven't > > > > >>>> > >>> work > > > > >>>> > >>>>> with > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> them, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I read about the history of ECharts, Mr Lin > > Zhifeng > > > > and > > > > >>>> > >> Mr > > > > >>>> > >>>> Dong > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> Rui > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> had > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> made remarkable contributions to ECharts, even > > thought > > > > they > > > > >>>> > >>>> haven't > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> contribute during incubating but It can't change > the > > > fact > > > > >>>> > >> that > > > > >>>> > >>>> they > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> have > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> laid the foundation for ECharts, so naming they as > > PMC > > > in > > > > >>>> > >>> future > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> would > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> be > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> reasonable > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As for the password, distribute it via private mail > > > list > > > > >>>> > >>> wasn't a > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> great > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea,, like @zhongxiang mentioned, someone else > would > > > > >>>> "steal" > > > > >>>> > >>> it, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> especially we have discussed on dev mail list which > > > lots > > > > of > > > > >>>> > >>>> people > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> how > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> passport would be distributed. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best regard > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Siwen Su > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang <wan...@apache.org> 于2020年7月30日周四 > > > > >>>> 下午12:57写道： > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The current website is following the guide of > > > podling > > > > >>>> > >>> website > > > > >>>> > >>>>> and > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> is > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all right for me. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sending an important private key or password on > > > email > > > > >>>> > >>> without > > > > >>>> > >>>>> any > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption is obviously so unsafe. Some email > > clients > > > > >>>> don’t > > > > >>>> > >>>>> encrypt > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> email content by default and this may lead to a > leak > > > of > > > > >>>> > >>> content > > > > >>>> > >>>> if > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> it’s > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> intercepted during the transmission. So it’s > better > > to > > > > >>>> > >> enable > > > > >>>> > >>>>> email > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> encryption in email client and encrypt the raw > > > password > > > > or > > > > >>>> > >> any > > > > >>>> > >>>>> other > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> important information in the content of the email > by > > > > some > > > > >>>> > >>>> advanced > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> patterns > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> difficult to crack before sending to a mailing > list > > or > > > > >>>> > >>>> elsewhere. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. As for the early PMCs and committers, we should > > > > always > > > > >>>> > >> keep > > > > >>>> > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> founder > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhifeng Lin as PMC, who is so essential to ECharts > > > > >>>> project. > > > > >>>> > >>> As I > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> know, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> he’s > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> been helping silently ECharts project improve and > > > > develop > > > > >>>> by > > > > >>>> > >>> his > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> professional suggestions. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Zhongxiang Wang. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2020/07/27 05:07:23, Ovilia < > > oviliazh...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache ECharts (incubating) has learned and > grown a > > > lot > > > > >>>> > >> since > > > > >>>> > >>>> our > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> incubation in Jan > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2018. Now, I'm glad to call on a discussion about > > > > whether > > > > >>>> > >> we > > > > >>>> > >>>> are > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ready > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> graduation and > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what remains to be done. Hopefully, after this > > > > >>>> discussion, > > > > >>>> > >> we > > > > >>>> > >>>> can > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> set > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> status to be > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "near graduation" in the monthly report. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Updates since incubation: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 2 new PPMCs (and another has completed the vote > > and > > > > >>>> > >>>> undergoing > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> process) and 7 > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> new committers were elected and joined the > > community > > > > [1] > > > > >>>> > >> and > > > > >>>> > >>>> now > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we have committers working for more than 6 > > different > > > > >>>> > >>> companies. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Our mailing list [2] is very active and we have > > 79 > > > > >>>> people > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> subscribed > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Released 8 versions by 2 release managers [3]; > > > > release > > > > >>>> > >>> guide > > > > >>>> > >>>> is > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> at > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [4] > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - 73 people have contributed to the project > during > > > > >>>> > >> incubation > > > > >>>> > >>>> [9] > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Assessment of the maturity model is available > at > > > [5] > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Branding issues have been solved and name > > searching > > > > has > > > > >>>> > >>> been > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> completed > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [6] > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Other things we need to discuss: > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We updated our Website [7] content, logo, > document, > > > and > > > > >>>> so > > > > >>>> > >> on > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> according > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache rules > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hopefully, it's following all requirements. > You > > > may > > > > >>>> > >> help > > > > >>>> > >>>>> check > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rules [8] and discuss > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ones that you think need to change. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sponsored CDN > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated the Website with a sponsored CDN > to > > > > >>>> improve > > > > >>>> > >>>> speed > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> in > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> China > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> created an account for all PPMCs. But we are not > > sure > > > > how > > > > >>>> > >> we > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should distribute the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> password of that account? Should we send the > > password > > > > on > > > > >>>> > >> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> private > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list? Is that safe enough? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the releasing script in the release guide > [4] > > > > >>>> depends > > > > >>>> > >>> on > > > > >>>> > >>>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> password > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the CDN > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> private key. How should we distribute it? > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. PMCs and Committers > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have to discuss what to do with the initial > > PPMCs > > > > that > > > > >>>> > >> had > > > > >>>> > >>>> no > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> clear > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project during incubation. We should decide > on > > > each > > > > >>>> of > > > > >>>> > >>>> them, > > > > >>>> > >>>>> do > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> we > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wish > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to make > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> him a PMC or Committer or neither. Basically, > it's > > > > >>>> decided > > > > >>>> > >> by > > > > >>>> > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project, > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> so please talk about how you feel about this. > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a. Lin Zhifeng https://github.com/kener > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> b. Dong Rui https://github.com/erik168 > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> c. Huang Houjin https://github.com/chriswong > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > https://echarts.apache.org/en/committers.html > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > > > >>>> > >>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/echarts/ > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [4] > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+ECharts+Release+Guide > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [5] > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ECHARTS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+ECharts > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [6] > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-153 > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://echarts.apache.org/ > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [8] > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [9] Using `git shortlog -sn --since="20 Jan, > 2018"` > > > on > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > >>>> master > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> branch > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and merging > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> alias > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ovilia* > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > >>>> dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > >>>> > >> dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> kmcgr...@apache.org > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> > >>>> Yi Shen > > > > >>>> > >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC > > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > >> -- > > > > >>>> > >> Yi Shen > > > > >>>> > >> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
