thanks after that I read more about upnp, I find out that a media server need contentdirectory +contentmanager. I'll read more about upnp and use the cybergarage sample to play around. After that I'll switch to felix upnp.
right now i'm able to have a media server shown on the ps3.. just not able to stream data yet. in Felix upnp, how the streaming is done ? (I read that felix upnp was a updated version of cyberdomo library, but is it possible to replace the http request made within cyberlink with NIO (like Mina ? ) 2008/10/2 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > well, trying to simulate a media server just changing the declared types > could be unhelpful. If the CP on the PS3 do some deep check on the device > description, it could decide to discard a non valid device. > > I forget to say that Intel Tool is for wWindows machines but if you can > intall it then you can run the UPnp Ligth device and also UPnP sniffer ... > it is limited but you can play with exchanged packets > > francesco > > > > Survivant 00 wrote: > >> thanks.. it's a clear answer. >> >> I'm modifying the sample of Felix to change the type for MediaServer liek >> cyberlink Media Server. I'll see if the PS3 see it. I'm pretty sure it's >> something like that. >> >> There is still the problem with google media server. >> >> I'll keep the thread in touch if modifying the config of the samples, will >> appears on the ps3. >> >> >> 2008/10/1 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> If you refer to the UPnP Specification, yes it's true. >>> Usually talking bout physical device, when they are plugged on the >>> network >>> they should send an advertisement (multicast messages) about their >>> presence. >>> But in the UPnP Ecosystem there are also Control Points (CP)entities that >>> are consumers of the services exposed by UPnP devices; CPs can be develop >>> 1) >>> to work exactly with a specific type of device, for instance a CP >>> implementing a Light Control Panel would be interested to discover only >>> devices implementing the UPnP Lighting profile, that's ignoring all the >>> rest >>> of UPnP devices like media servers; 2) to listen every type of device, >>> that's they are Generic Control Points (i.e. the Felix UPnP Tester >>> Bundle). >>> In latter case they are interested to receive every multicast message >>> sent >>> by UPnP devices plugged on the network. The problem arise when a Generic >>> Control Point is started/connected when other UpnP devices are already >>> connected to the network, that 's they have loose the multicast messages >>> sent previously. In this case the CP can issue a multicast search request >>> (called M-SEARCH) specifying the kind of devices to which it is >>> interested >>> (e.g. all-devices, only root devices, a device type). If there are UPnP >>> devices compatible with the Search Target field of the message then they >>> will reply to the CP. >>> >>> So to summarize you should be sure that in your PS3 you are using a >>> generic >>> control point that is interested to see every kind of device not only one >>> type (.ie. media server) otherwise the UPnP samples that you start with >>> Felix are not valid because they implement a particular device type. May >>> be >>> for this reason Bruce has answered to you saying that you should >>> implement a >>> media server on Felix. As crosscheck, I suggested of launching the Intel >>> Light Device ( >>> >>> http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/tools/index.htm >>> ). >>> If you are able to see the Intel device Light on th PS3 then I 'm quite >>> sure >>> there is a problem with the Felix UPnp Implementation. As consequence of >>> this, (supposing UPnP impementation on Ps3 works fine) we have to >>> understand >>> if the problem is on the multicast announce od the devices or in the >>> response to the multicat search sent by the PS3 ... or in both :( >>> >>> hoping this clarify >>> regards, >>> francesco >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ciao, >>> francesco >>> >>> >>> Survivant 00 wrote: >>> >>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> I'll do the test tonight, I'm at work now. >>>> >>>> just to help me understand, I tough that a upnp device was automaticaly >>>> availables it is true ? if not, do you have to specify certains >>>> settings >>>> ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> yes Sébastien, I was thinking to the PS3 not a service pack 3 ;-) >>>> >>>>> meanwhile you could tell me if the discovery fail in both the cases >>>>> (changing the launching order) and of course if you have already tested >>>>> the >>>>> PS3 with other simple devices like the Intel Light (this because I >>>>> don't >>>>> know PS3 and I would be sure that it searches for all the devices and >>>>> not >>>>> only for certain device types like media server ... >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> francesco >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Survivant 00 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> my name = Sébastien Dionne >>>>> >>>>>> just to be clear.. it's not SP3, but PS3 (Playstation 3). >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll wait for further instruction. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi <your name?> >>>>>> >>>>>> well give me some time to check the problems with Google Media server >>>>>>> ( >>>>>>> i >>>>>>> will install all the stuff in the next days). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding the SP3 I need to know if launching first the Felix samples >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then SP3 and viceversa (first SP3 and then samples) the behaviour is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks for the help I 'll be back to you ASAP, in these days I'm a >>>>>>> bit >>>>>>> busy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ciao >>>>>>> francesco >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Survivant 00 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I did is simple. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I started the sample with the upnp.bat . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I saw all the devices from the sample + the device TVersity that run >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> another computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was expected to see the samples on the PS3.. even if the PS3 won't >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>> to do anything with it, but It should still shown on the PS3. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> + I didn't see my google media server on the devices list.. I see it >>>>>>>> perfectly on the PS3. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I downloaded the cybergarage Cyberlink Media Server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and I'm able to see this device on the tester that came with the >>>>>>>> sample, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it's shown on the PS3, and I'm able to browse it too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can help you to debug it if you tell me what I can do to help you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> just tell me the tools to use and the tests to run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and I know that felix is a newer version, but that's the point.. I >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> expecting the sample to shown on the PS3.. just shown is enough.. >>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> the rest to create a media server.. but I just want a base to start >>>>>>>> from. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bruce Jackson has opened a bug ( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-630) that could be >>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> your, although it concerns Xbox 360. >>>>>>>>> However, supposing there is not a network problem, you may do some >>>>>>>>> test >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> understand if the problem is related to either the M-SEARCH or the >>>>>>>>> Announce >>>>>>>>> of the devices, or both :(. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So when you start/stop a sample on the Felix platform an announce >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> sent >>>>>>>>> to the already started UPnP Control Points (CPs). If they after a >>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> not see the sample device it means that the announce is not well >>>>>>>>> interpreted/received by the CPs. Then stop and restart the CPs, >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>> send an M-SEARCH packet to which the samples running on the Felix >>>>>>>>> Platform >>>>>>>>> must reply. If the samples are not discovered then the problem is >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the M-Search response (e.g Felix-630). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Try also to use some packet sniffer to see what really happen on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> network, I cannot help you because I haven't got a PS3 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> francesco >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jackson, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you say that you're using the samples in felix, what do you >>>>>>>>> mean? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cyberlink is a upnp media server application built on top of the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> upnp >>>>>>>>>> stack. >>>>>>>>>> You would need to build a similar media server on top of the felix >>>>>>>>>> upnp >>>>>>>>>> stack in order for it to be seen by the ps3. Felix uses a newer >>>>>>>>>> version >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> the same underlying upnp base driver as cyberlink. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- original message --- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: upnp media server pure java >>>>>>>>>> Date: 29th September 2008 >>>>>>>>>> Time: 6:40:11 pm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I found the program Cyberlink media server and I'm able to see it >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>> PS3. I think it use a old version of cyberlink upnp library. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to try the same thing with Felix... I have plan to >>>>>>>>>> reverse-engineer >>>>>>>>>> it to understand the difference. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> did someone know what is missing in the sample to be able to do >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>> thing ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2008/9/29 Survivant 00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to do a media server using Felix upnp. I downloaded and >>>>>>>>>> builded >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> source code. When I run the samples, I'm able to see them within >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> tester. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I even see my Tversity that run on another computer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but I don't see my Google media server and I don't see the >>>>>>>>>>> samples >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>> Playstations 3. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is the Felix upnp is complete or there something missing to be >>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> reconized google media server and be seen on the PS3 ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> my principale target will be the PS3. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>
