thanks. That explain a lot. One remaining question.
I look at Intel upnp spy. and I only see a ConnectionManager and a ContentDirectory. I can browse.. but I did it how the client send a START ou PLAY on a media. do you know a client that can browse and play content and log everything on disk ? 2008/10/5 Jackson, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes. Felix contains an implementation of the UPnP stack as per the OSGi > specification. This supports all of the basic UPnP discovery and service > interaction mechanisms. The standardized services are built on top of this, > but its up to you to implement them. > > You need to download the UPnP specs for Media Server and Media Renderer > from the UPnP forum web site, and then read the specs to se what a media > server is expected to return to a client. > > The flow is in essence, simple. > > 1. A control point (which you or someone else must write) uses the actions > defined in the Content Directory (browse and search) to locate an item of > media. This media item has a property which is its URL, where it can be > located and "streamed" from. > > 2. The control point then finds an AV Transport service. This again, has > many public actions, the most important being things like play and stop. > Simply, the play action takes the URL which was previously obtained from the > Content Directory. > > 3. Once the control point calls the play() action, the AV Transport will > start reading from the URL and playing the media. > > Hence, it is possible that the URL is not actually present in the Content > Directory at all, and is certainly not specified by the UPnP transports. > > > On 05/10/2008 11:49, "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that's good. > > so the upnp drivers only provide the service and it's hope to me to do the > streaming. I didn't see in the doc how the server respond to the client. > > I suppose that when the client will do PLAY it will send a action to the > server, but how the srever send the data back ? > > and I didn't see the javadoc of the upnp packages. what is the Maven2 > parameters to pass in the command line to generate the javadoc ? > > mvn xxxx ? > > I read the blog : > http://membres-liglab.imag.fr/donsez/cours/exemplesosgi/tutorialosgi.htm#upnp > > but didn't find how the data was send between the application. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Jackson, Bruce* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/10/5 > Subject: Re: upnp media server pure java > To: "dev@felix.apache.org" <dev@felix.apache.org>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Streaming isn't done by the UPnP library at all. All the Content directory > does is to provide the rendering application with a URL. Where that points > is entirely up to you, but would typically be to a servlet running in your > media server application (probably using the OSGi http service). Whether the > http service uses NIO is another question altogether and I've no idea about > the default Jetty implementation shipped with Felix. But if you want to use > NIO, then you can always write something yourself that does. > > > > On 04/10/2008 22:22, "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > thanks > > after that I read more about upnp, I find out that a media server need > contentdirectory +contentmanager. I'll read more about upnp and use the > cybergarage sample to play around. After that I'll switch to felix upnp. > > right now i'm able to have a media server shown on the ps3.. just not able > to stream data yet. > > in Felix upnp, how the streaming is done ? (I read that felix upnp was a > updated version of cyberdomo library, but is it possible to replace the > http > request made within cyberlink with NIO (like Mina ? ) > > > > > 2008/10/2 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > well, trying to simulate a media server just changing the declared types > > could be unhelpful. If the CP on the PS3 do some deep check on the device > > description, it could decide to discard a non valid device. > > > > I forget to say that Intel Tool is for wWindows machines but if you can > > intall it then you can run the UPnp Ligth device and also UPnP sniffer > ... > > it is limited but you can play with exchanged packets > > > > francesco > > > > > > > > Survivant 00 wrote: > > > >> thanks.. it's a clear answer. > >> > >> I'm modifying the sample of Felix to change the type for MediaServer > liek > >> cyberlink Media Server. I'll see if the PS3 see it. I'm pretty sure > it's > >> something like that. > >> > >> There is still the problem with google media server. > >> > >> I'll keep the thread in touch if modifying the config of the samples, > will > >> appears on the ps3. > >> > >> > >> 2008/10/1 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > >> If you refer to the UPnP Specification, yes it's true. > >>> Usually talking bout physical device, when they are plugged on the > >>> network > >>> they should send an advertisement (multicast messages) about their > >>> presence. > >>> But in the UPnP Ecosystem there are also Control Points (CP)entities > that > >>> are consumers of the services exposed by UPnP devices; CPs can be > develop > >>> 1) > >>> to work exactly with a specific type of device, for instance a CP > >>> implementing a Light Control Panel would be interested to discover only > >>> devices implementing the UPnP Lighting profile, that's ignoring all the > >>> rest > >>> of UPnP devices like media servers; 2) to listen every type of device, > >>> that's they are Generic Control Points (i.e. the Felix UPnP Tester > >>> Bundle). > >>> In latter case they are interested to receive every multicast message > >>> sent > >>> by UPnP devices plugged on the network. The problem arise when a > Generic > >>> Control Point is started/connected when other UpnP devices are already > >>> connected to the network, that 's they have loose the multicast > messages > >>> sent previously. In this case the CP can issue a multicast search > request > >>> (called M-SEARCH) specifying the kind of devices to which it is > >>> interested > >>> (e.g. all-devices, only root devices, a device type). If there are UPnP > >>> devices compatible with the Search Target field of the message then > they > >>> will reply to the CP. > >>> > >>> So to summarize you should be sure that in your PS3 you are using a > >>> generic > >>> control point that is interested to see every kind of device not only > one > >>> type (.ie. media server) otherwise the UPnP samples that you start with > >>> Felix are not valid because they implement a particular device type. > May > >>> be > >>> for this reason Bruce has answered to you saying that you should > >>> implement a > >>> media server on Felix. As crosscheck, I suggested of launching the > Intel > >>> Light Device ( > >>> > >>> > http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/tools/index.htm > >>> ). > >>> If you are able to see the Intel device Light on th PS3 then I 'm quite > >>> sure > >>> there is a problem with the Felix UPnp Implementation. As consequence > of > >>> this, (supposing UPnP impementation on Ps3 works fine) we have to > >>> understand > >>> if the problem is on the multicast announce od the devices or in the > >>> response to the multicat search sent by the PS3 ... or in both :( > >>> > >>> hoping this clarify > >>> regards, > >>> francesco > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ciao, > >>> francesco > >>> > >>> > >>> Survivant 00 wrote: > >>> > >>> :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I'll do the test tonight, I'm at work now. > >>>> > >>>> just to help me understand, I tough that a upnp device was > automaticaly > >>>> availables it is true ? if not, do you have to specify certains > >>>> settings > >>>> ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>> > >>>> yes Sébastien, I was thinking to the PS3 not a service pack 3 ;-) > >>>> > >>>>> meanwhile you could tell me if the discovery fail in both the cases > >>>>> (changing the launching order) and of course if you have already > tested > >>>>> the > >>>>> PS3 with other simple devices like the Intel Light (this because I > >>>>> don't > >>>>> know PS3 and I would be sure that it searches for all the devices and > >>>>> not > >>>>> only for certain device types like media server ... > >>>>> > >>>>> regards, > >>>>> francesco > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Survivant 00 wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> my name = Sébastien Dionne > >>>>> > >>>>>> just to be clear.. it's not SP3, but PS3 (Playstation 3). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll wait for further instruction. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi <your name?> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> well give me some time to check the problems with Google Media > server > >>>>>>> ( > >>>>>>> i > >>>>>>> will install all the stuff in the next days). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regarding the SP3 I need to know if launching first the Felix > samples > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> then SP3 and viceversa (first SP3 and then samples) the behaviour > is > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> same. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> thanks for the help I 'll be back to you ASAP, in these days I'm a > >>>>>>> bit > >>>>>>> busy. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ciao > >>>>>>> francesco > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Survivant 00 wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What I did is simple. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I started the sample with the upnp.bat . > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I saw all the devices from the sample + the device TVersity that > run > >>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>> another computer. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I was expected to see the samples on the PS3.. even if the PS3 > won't > >>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>> able > >>>>>>>> to do anything with it, but It should still shown on the PS3. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> + I didn't see my google media server on the devices list.. I see > it > >>>>>>>> perfectly on the PS3. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I downloaded the cybergarage Cyberlink Media Server. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and I'm able to see this device on the tester that came with the > >>>>>>>> sample, > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> it's shown on the PS3, and I'm able to browse it too. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I can help you to debug it if you tell me what I can do to help > you. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> just tell me the tools to use and the tests to run. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and I know that felix is a newer version, but that's the point.. I > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> expecting the sample to shown on the PS3.. just shown is enough.. > >>>>>>>> I'll > >>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>> the rest to create a media server.. but I just want a base to > start > >>>>>>>> from. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Bruce Jackson has opened a bug ( > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-630) that could be > >>>>>>>>> related > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> your, although it concerns Xbox 360. > >>>>>>>>> However, supposing there is not a network problem, you may do > some > >>>>>>>>> test > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> understand if the problem is related to either the M-SEARCH or > the > >>>>>>>>> Announce > >>>>>>>>> of the devices, or both :(. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So when you start/stop a sample on the Felix platform an announce > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> sent > >>>>>>>>> to the already started UPnP Control Points (CPs). If they after a > >>>>>>>>> while > >>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>> not see the sample device it means that the announce is not well > >>>>>>>>> interpreted/received by the CPs. Then stop and restart the CPs, > >>>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>>> should > >>>>>>>>> send an M-SEARCH packet to which the samples running on the Felix > >>>>>>>>> Platform > >>>>>>>>> must reply. If the samples are not discovered then the problem is > >>>>>>>>> also > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> the M-Search response (e.g Felix-630). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Try also to use some packet sniffer to see what really happen on > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> network, I cannot help you because I haven't got a PS3 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> francesco > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jackson, Bruce wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> When you say that you're using the samples in felix, what do you > >>>>>>>>> mean? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cyberlink is a upnp media server application built on top of the > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> upnp > >>>>>>>>>> stack. > >>>>>>>>>> You would need to build a similar media server on top of the > felix > >>>>>>>>>> upnp > >>>>>>>>>> stack in order for it to be seen by the ps3. Felix uses a newer > >>>>>>>>>> version > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> the same underlying upnp base driver as cyberlink. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --- original message --- > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: upnp media server pure java > >>>>>>>>>> Date: 29th September 2008 > >>>>>>>>>> Time: 6:40:11 pm > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I found the program Cyberlink media server and I'm able to see > it > >>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>> PS3. I think it use a old version of cyberlink upnp library. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I want to try the same thing with Felix... I have plan to > >>>>>>>>>> reverse-engineer > >>>>>>>>>> it to understand the difference. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> did someone know what is missing in the sample to be able to do > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>> thing ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2008/9/29 Survivant 00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < > http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I want to do a media server using Felix upnp. I downloaded and > >>>>>>>>>> builded > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> source code. When I run the samples, I'm able to see them > within > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> tester. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I even see my Tversity that run on another computer. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> but I don't see my Google media server and I don't see the > >>>>>>>>>>> samples > >>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>> Playstations 3. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Is the Felix upnp is complete or there something missing to be > >>>>>>>>>>> able > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> reconized google media server and be seen on the PS3 ? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> my principale target will be the PS3. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >
