I found something. I think the problem is here :
the transfert is done by a URL : I used Intel AV media controler and I found this URL for a share media http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:38520/ExportContent?id=5 if I enter that in my browser the media works.. so it's really based on the URL. so the MediaServer use a httpserver to stream the data. maybe with others clients, it could use custom protocol 2008/10/6 Survivant 00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > thanks nice article. > > in my case the PS3 is the media renderers and the control point (send the > play, FF, stop).. but still need to trace where the control point command is > received in the media server and how the media server send data back > (streaming) (it as to take the data somewhere. ) > > > I,m trying the library Platinum in C++ (it's not java :( ) > > I had trace all the incoming/outgoing requests (SAOP) from the PS3 to my > cybergate server, but nothing is stream yet. Maybe the cybergate > implemenation is not complete, that's why I wanted to find a working demo in > java. I didn't find any yet. > > > > > 2008/10/6 Jackson, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> That's because Google Media Server, Tversity and Cybergate are media >> servers and NOT media renderers, and therefore they have no AV Transport >> service. >> I suggest that you should take a read of: >> >> http://www.upnp.org/standardizeddcps/documents/UPnPAvArchtiecture0.83.pdf >> >> As this explains quite clearly the role of media servers and renderers, >> and the services that they provide. >> >> >> >> On 06/10/2008 13:52, "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> In order to play media you will need to find another device which supports >> the AVTransport service. This has the play() and stop() actions. >> >> >> Agreed, and I know the PS3 is a only a player, my question was why Google >> Media Server, Tversity or cybergate media server are not detected as >> AVTransport service ? >> >> because the 2 previous services, will list was media is available, but >> doesn't have to had them on there server, it can be on the server than >> reside the AVTransport service. >> >> do you have a sample of AVTransport service (prefenrencly in java) and >> how the mapping is done between the application that had the >> contentdirectory and the connectionmanager services ? >> >> >> >> for Jetty, I think the latest version can use NIO from grizzly ( >> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/jfarcand/archive/2007/11/jetty_616_is_ou_1.html >> ) >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008/10/6 Jackson, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Hi Stefano >> >> I'm aware of that, my question was more whether Jetty used NIO at all. I >> know the base driver doesn't, but I've never looked at the Jetty source. >> >> Thanks >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> On 06/10/2008 13:18, "Stefano Lenzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Hi Bruce and Surviant, >> >> I would like to clarify which HTTP implementation is used by the Apache >> Felix UPnP Base Driver, basedriver from now one. The only HTTP >> implementation used by the basedriver uses the HTTP server developed by >> CyberLink which uses jre-1.3 classes (so neither NIO nor MINA). In >> particular, the basedriver depends on CyberDomo which is a patched >> version of the CyberLink library so it uses the HTTP implemented by >> CyberDomo library. >> >> The Jetty HTTP implementation *may* be used by the UPnPDevice service >> registered on the platform that are willing to be accessed by means of >> presentationURL, as defined in the UPnP Device Architecture document. >> Because the UPnPDevice *may* uses the HttpService defined by OSGi >> specification, and the current implementation of the HTTP bundle >> developed by the Apache Felix project uses Jetty. >> >> At the end, to summarize: >> - Apache Felix UPnP Base Driver relies only on the CyberDomo HTTP >> implementation >> - Jetty is used only by UPnPDevice which relies on the HTTP bundle >> implementation developed by the Apache Felix project >> >> Ciao, >> Stefano "Kismet" Lenzi >> >> P.S.: Surviant you are free to provide a patch either for CyberLink or >> CyberDomo to enable NIO or MINA >> >> Jackson, Bruce ha scritto: >> > Streaming isn't done by the UPnP library at all. All the Content >> directory does is to provide the rendering application with a URL. Where >> that points is entirely up to you, but would typically be to a servlet >> running in your media server application (probably using the OSGi http >> service). Whether the http service uses NIO is another question altogether >> and I've no idea about the default Jetty implementation shipped with Felix. >> But if you want to use NIO, then you can always write something yourself >> that does. >> > >> > >> > On 04/10/2008 22:22, "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> > >> > thanks >> > >> > after that I read more about upnp, I find out that a media server need >> > contentdirectory +contentmanager. I'll read more about upnp and use >> the >> > cybergarage sample to play around. After that I'll switch to felix >> upnp. >> > >> > right now i'm able to have a media server shown on the ps3.. just not >> able >> > to stream data yet. >> > >> > in Felix upnp, how the streaming is done ? (I read that felix upnp was >> a >> > updated version of cyberdomo library, but is it possible to replace the >> http >> > request made within cyberlink with NIO (like Mina ? ) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2008/10/2 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> well, trying to simulate a media server just changing the declared >> types >> >> could be unhelpful. If the CP on the PS3 do some deep check on the >> device >> >> description, it could decide to discard a non valid device. >> >> >> >> I forget to say that Intel Tool is for wWindows machines but if you can >> >> intall it then you can run the UPnp Ligth device and also UPnP sniffer >> ... >> >> it is limited but you can play with exchanged packets >> >> >> >> francesco >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Survivant 00 wrote: >> >> >> >>> thanks.. it's a clear answer. >> >>> >> >>> I'm modifying the sample of Felix to change the type for MediaServer >> liek >> >>> cyberlink Media Server. I'll see if the PS3 see it. I'm pretty sure >> it's >> >>> something like that. >> >>> >> >>> There is still the problem with google media server. >> >>> >> >>> I'll keep the thread in touch if modifying the config of the samples, >> will >> >>> appears on the ps3. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2008/10/1 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >>> >> >>> If you refer to the UPnP Specification, yes it's true. >> >>>> Usually talking bout physical device, when they are plugged on the >> >>>> network >> >>>> they should send an advertisement (multicast messages) about their >> >>>> presence. >> >>>> But in the UPnP Ecosystem there are also Control Points (CP)entities >> that >> >>>> are consumers of the services exposed by UPnP devices; CPs can be >> develop >> >>>> 1) >> >>>> to work exactly with a specific type of device, for instance a CP >> >>>> implementing a Light Control Panel would be interested to discover >> only >> >>>> devices implementing the UPnP Lighting profile, that's ignoring all >> the >> >>>> rest >> >>>> of UPnP devices like media servers; 2) to listen every type of >> device, >> >>>> that's they are Generic Control Points (i.e. the Felix UPnP Tester >> >>>> Bundle). >> >>>> In latter case they are interested to receive every multicast message >> >>>> sent >> >>>> by UPnP devices plugged on the network. The problem arise when a >> Generic >> >>>> Control Point is started/connected when other UpnP devices are >> already >> >>>> connected to the network, that 's they have loose the multicast >> messages >> >>>> sent previously. In this case the CP can issue a multicast search >> request >> >>>> (called M-SEARCH) specifying the kind of devices to which it is >> >>>> interested >> >>>> (e.g. all-devices, only root devices, a device type). If there are >> UPnP >> >>>> devices compatible with the Search Target field of the message then >> they >> >>>> will reply to the CP. >> >>>> >> >>>> So to summarize you should be sure that in your PS3 you are using a >> >>>> generic >> >>>> control point that is interested to see every kind of device not only >> one >> >>>> type (.ie. media server) otherwise the UPnP samples that you start >> with >> >>>> Felix are not valid because they implement a particular device type. >> May >> >>>> be >> >>>> for this reason Bruce has answered to you saying that you should >> >>>> implement a >> >>>> media server on Felix. As crosscheck, I suggested of launching the >> Intel >> >>>> Light Device ( >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/tools/index.htm >> >>>> ). >> >>>> If you are able to see the Intel device Light on th PS3 then I 'm >> quite >> >>>> sure >> >>>> there is a problem with the Felix UPnp Implementation. As consequence >> of >> >>>> this, (supposing UPnP impementation on Ps3 works fine) we have to >> >>>> understand >> >>>> if the problem is on the multicast announce od the devices or in the >> >>>> response to the multicat search sent by the PS3 ... or in both :( >> >>>> >> >>>> hoping this clarify >> >>>> regards, >> >>>> francesco >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ciao, >> >>>> francesco >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Survivant 00 wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I'll do the test tonight, I'm at work now. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> just to help me understand, I tough that a upnp device was >> automaticaly >> >>>>> availables it is true ? if not, do you have to specify certains >> >>>>> settings >> >>>>> ? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>>>> >> >>>>> yes Sébastien, I was thinking to the PS3 not a service pack 3 ;-) >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> meanwhile you could tell me if the discovery fail in both the cases >> >>>>>> (changing the launching order) and of course if you have already >> tested >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> PS3 with other simple devices like the Intel Light (this because I >> >>>>>> don't >> >>>>>> know PS3 and I would be sure that it searches for all the devices >> and >> >>>>>> not >> >>>>>> only for certain device types like media server ... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> regards, >> >>>>>> francesco >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Survivant 00 wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> my name = Sébastien Dionne >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> just to be clear.. it's not SP3, but PS3 (Playstation 3). >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I'll wait for further instruction. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hi <your name?> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> well give me some time to check the problems with Google Media >> server >> >>>>>>>> ( >> >>>>>>>> i >> >>>>>>>> will install all the stuff in the next days). >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Regarding the SP3 I need to know if launching first the Felix >> samples >> >>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> then SP3 and viceversa (first SP3 and then samples) the behaviour >> is >> >>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>> same. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> thanks for the help I 'll be back to you ASAP, in these days I'm >> a >> >>>>>>>> bit >> >>>>>>>> busy. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ciao >> >>>>>>>> francesco >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Survivant 00 wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> What I did is simple. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I started the sample with the upnp.bat . >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I saw all the devices from the sample + the device TVersity that >> run >> >>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>> another computer. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I was expected to see the samples on the PS3.. even if the PS3 >> won't >> >>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>> able >> >>>>>>>>> to do anything with it, but It should still shown on the PS3. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> + I didn't see my google media server on the devices list.. I >> see it >> >>>>>>>>> perfectly on the PS3. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I downloaded the cybergarage Cyberlink Media Server. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> and I'm able to see this device on the tester that came with the >> >>>>>>>>> sample, >> >>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>> it's shown on the PS3, and I'm able to browse it too. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I can help you to debug it if you tell me what I can do to help >> you. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> just tell me the tools to use and the tests to run. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> and I know that felix is a newer version, but that's the point.. >> I >> >>>>>>>>> was >> >>>>>>>>> expecting the sample to shown on the PS3.. just shown is >> enough.. >> >>>>>>>>> I'll >> >>>>>>>>> do >> >>>>>>>>> the rest to create a media server.. but I just want a base to >> start >> >>>>>>>>> from. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 2008/9/30 Francesco Furfari <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Bruce Jackson has opened a bug ( >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-630) that could be >> >>>>>>>>>> related >> >>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>> your, although it concerns Xbox 360. >> >>>>>>>>>> However, supposing there is not a network problem, you may do >> some >> >>>>>>>>>> test >> >>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>> understand if the problem is related to either the M-SEARCH or >> the >> >>>>>>>>>> Announce >> >>>>>>>>>> of the devices, or both :(. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So when you start/stop a sample on the Felix platform an >> announce >> >>>>>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>> sent >> >>>>>>>>>> to the already started UPnP Control Points (CPs). If they after >> a >> >>>>>>>>>> while >> >>>>>>>>>> do >> >>>>>>>>>> not see the sample device it means that the announce is not >> well >> >>>>>>>>>> interpreted/received by the CPs. Then stop and restart the CPs, >> >>>>>>>>>> they >> >>>>>>>>>> should >> >>>>>>>>>> send an M-SEARCH packet to which the samples running on the >> Felix >> >>>>>>>>>> Platform >> >>>>>>>>>> must reply. If the samples are not discovered then the problem >> is >> >>>>>>>>>> also >> >>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>> the M-Search response (e.g Felix-630). >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Try also to use some packet sniffer to see what really happen >> on >> >>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>> network, I cannot help you because I haven't got a PS3 >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> francesco >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Jackson, Bruce wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> When you say that you're using the samples in felix, what do >> you >> >>>>>>>>>> mean? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cyberlink is a upnp media server application built on top of >> the >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> upnp >> >>>>>>>>>>> stack. >> >>>>>>>>>>> You would need to build a similar media server on top of the >> felix >> >>>>>>>>>>> upnp >> >>>>>>>>>>> stack in order for it to be seen by the ps3. Felix uses a >> newer >> >>>>>>>>>>> version >> >>>>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>> the same underlying upnp base driver as cyberlink. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> --- original message --- >> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Survivant 00" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: upnp media server pure java >> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29th September 2008 >> >>>>>>>>>>> Time: 6:40:11 pm >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I found the program Cyberlink media server and I'm able to see >> it >> >>>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>> my >> >>>>>>>>>>> PS3. I think it use a old version of cyberlink upnp library. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to try the same thing with Felix... I have plan to >> >>>>>>>>>>> reverse-engineer >> >>>>>>>>>>> it to understand the difference. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> did someone know what is missing in the sample to be able to >> do >> >>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> same >> >>>>>>>>>>> thing ? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 2008/9/29 Survivant 00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to do a media server using Felix upnp. I downloaded >> and >> >>>>>>>>>>> builded >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> source code. When I run the samples, I'm able to see them >> within >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tester. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I even see my Tversity that run on another computer. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't see my Google media server and I don't see the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> samples >> >>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>> my >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Playstations 3. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is the Felix upnp is complete or there something missing to >> be >> >>>>>>>>>>>> able >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>> reconized google media server and be seen on the PS3 ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> my principale target will be the PS3. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >
