Hi EdB;

Right now all my servers are linux CentOS 5.8. If you need windows I have
some unused MS Win 2008 servers licenses I can install.
please read my in line comments to your questions. 

Carlos

What a generous offer, thank you! -> I have quite a bit invested in a Flex
app so I'm very interested in Flex staying alive and well, since I'm still
expanding the app.  I was actually thinking of asking the user community if
there was any interested in using one of the servers to host some sort of
Flex Application/Services Directory since many of these projects seem to be
dying on the vine, but I've been a bit  unsure about asking... so if I can
help I'm glad.

2 questions:
- would (one of) these machines be accessible by others - the current
Jenkins admins - from the outside? -> I can provide you  with an IP  from a
pfSense firewall and you'll have full access to the server 
- would you be willing to do a test run of Mustella on "the best one" 
and see how well it does, before we set up the whole CI system? -> what
would you need, can you be more specific?




-----Original Message-----
From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:30 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2

Carlos,

What a generous offer, thank you! 

2 questions:
- would (one of) these machines be accessible by others - the current
Jenkins admins - from the outside?
- would you be willing to do a test run of Mustella on "the best one"
and see how well it does, before we set up the whole CI system?

Thanks again,

EdB



On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Carlos Cruz <car...@nbtbizcapital.com>
wrote:
> Although I'm still not using Apache Flex, I'm still stuck on Adobe's 
> Flex/FB 4.6, I do have a keen interest in Flex succeeding, at a data 
> center in Montreal I have the following I could spare no problem:
> 5 x Dell 2650
> 3 x Dell 2850
>
> and I could be persuaded to make 1 Dell 1950 or a 2950 available.
>
> I could be quite tolerant of traffic and I could spare one static IP.
>
> Let me know
> Carlos
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Om
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:56 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>
> Just keep in mind that Jenkins runs as a server and could use the same
port
> (80) that Mustella's server runs by default.   To avoid this problem, make
> sure that you use a different port for Mustella.
>
> Also, it would be best if you run a full run of Mustella from the 
> command line at least once before attempting to run it from Jenkins.  
> Would make your life easier :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is the config xml for local checkin_tests job that I set up on 
>> my machine [1].  You will need to modify it to run Mustella.  If you 
>> could do that and share the Jenkins config xml with the group, that 
>> would
> be great!
>>
>> [1] http://pastebin.com/ydDWRwR9
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM, JP Bader <j...@zavteq.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, I have a box that I could probably toss into the mix, if 
>>> anyone can give me a configuration image or something similar, I can 
>>> boot up a win box and make a CI happen as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Avi Kessner <akess...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hmm, I have a spare desktop, what is needed to turn it into a ci
>>> server? It
>>> > has 2gb ram and is about 5 years old.
>>> > On Feb 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Om" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > The problem with Apache CI is that there are a lot of restrictions.
>>> > >  Running tests for hours together is not an option.  Moreover, 
>>> > > since
>>> it
>>> > is
>>> > > a shared environment, the build servers go down a lot and it 
>>> > > takes weeks/months to get a broken job fixed.
>>> > >
>>> > > We need something robust that we can manage ourselves.  It does 
>>> > > not
>>> have
>>> > to
>>> > > be a hosted VM, it can as well be someone's unused computer
> somewhere.
>>> >  One
>>> > > could theoretically install Jenkins and set up a job to pull 
>>> > > every
>>> night
>>> > > and run the tests.  I
>>> > >
>>> > > In my case, I don't have any spare computers, so I started 
>>> > > toying
>>> around
>>> > > with Amazon EC2.  If someone can set it up anywhere and let the 
>>> > > group
>>> > know
>>> > > when things break, that would be a good start.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Om
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Christofer Dutz < 
>>> > > christofer.d...@c-ware.de
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Well I guess no matter what ci system, we would need a server 
>>> > > > for
>>> that.
>>> > > > Apache uses Jenkins. It was just an assumption, that 
>>> > > > eventually
>>> > Jetbrains
>>> > > > could eventually provide us with one, just fit the sake of 
>>> > > > pre-tested-commits and pre-tested-pull-requests. If it was 
>>> > > > just for
>>> the
>>> > > > nightly build, Jenkins does just fine.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Chris
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Am 19. Februar 2013 17:47:01 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <
>>> > > > webdoubl...@hotmail.com>:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  It doesn't sound to be worthy guys but as soon as will move 
>>> > > > on
>>> git, as
>>> > > >> stated Chris, getting teamcity can maybe do the trick.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Fred
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> > > >> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski
>>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:39 PM
>>> > > >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > >> Subject: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Other costs you need to be aware of are S3/EBS storage and
>>> bandwidth.
>>> > > >> These could equal the amount of the per-hour charge (or more, 
>>> > > >> in
>>> some
>>> > of
>>> > > >> my cases).  It all depends on how much traffic you are 
>>> > > >> sending,
> and
>>> > how
>>> > > >> much you are storing...  If you are pulling full builds each
> night,
>>> > that
>>> > > >> could be quite a bit..
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Nick
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>>> e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > From [1]:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Heavy Utilization Reserved Instance (medium size) on a 3 
>>> > > >> > year
>>> > contract
>>> > > >> > would mean something like $600 up front and $0.066 per 
>>> > > >> > hour. If
>>> we
>>> > run
>>> > > >> > once a day, and it takes 12 hours to run (guessing here), 
>>> > > >> > that
>>> would
>>> > > >> > mean 3*365*12*0.066 = ~ $870. So running the thing for 3 
>>> > > >> > years
>>> would
>>> > > >> > take something like $1500.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Are there any other costs that this page is neatly hiding 
>>> > > >> > (data transfer, access)?
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > If we do a Wikipedia style drive for funds, we should be 
>>> > > >> > able to
>>> get
>>> > > >> > that kind of money together, couldn't we?
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > EdB
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > 1: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/**pricing/<
>>> > > http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <
>>> e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >> > > Anyone with experience care to make a guess what a
> sufficiently
>>> > > >> > > powerful instance would cost per month? I for one would 
>>> > > >> > > be
>>> willing
>>> > > to
>>> > > >> > > donate a couple of dollars (at least) per month to see 
>>> > > >> > > this
>>> > happen,
>>> > > >> > > and I'm sure more people will feel the same way...
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > EdB
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM, 
>>> > > >> > > christofer.d...@c-ware.de <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> Well I spoke with
>>> > > >> > >> Toan Nguyen
>>> > > >> > >> Enterprise Sales Manager
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I have no idea if there is anyone we should better contact.
>>> > > >> > >> All I did was fill out the form on the AWS Sales site. 
>>> > > >> > >> He was
>>> the
>>> > > one
>>> > > >> > responding to this and this morning we spoke a few minutes.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> To me it looked as if Amazon wasn't really willing to 
>>> > > >> > >> provide
>>> > > Medium
>>> > > >> > Windows instances free of charge. He claimed that Amazon
>>> couldn't go
>>> > > >> > around
>>> > > >> > giveing away free nodes to everyone (At least this was the
>>> essence
>>> > of
>>> > > >> what
>>> > > >> > he told me).
>>> > > >> > >> Eventaully someone else might think differently.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> ______________________________**__________
>>> > > >> > >> Von: Harbs [gavha...@gmail.com]
>>> > > >> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Februar 2013 13:47
>>> > > >> > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> > > >> > >> Betreff: Re: Mustella on Amazon EC2
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Did you speak to anyone with authority there, or was it 
>>> > > >> > >> just
> a
>>> > > canned
>>> > > >> > response?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> If anyone has a real contact at AWS, the answer might be
>>> > > different. I
>>> > > >> > can't imagine it costs them very much to donate some 
>>> > > >> > resources
> to
>>> > > Apache
>>> > > >> > Flex… Anyone have a contact there?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I personally use AWS, but not on the scale that I have 
>>> > > >> > >> any
>>> real
>>> > > pull…
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>> Well unfortunately I don't have good news :-( just 
>>> > > >> > >>> tasked to
>>> > them
>>> > > >> and
>>> > > >> > it seems they don't want to do more than give us their 1 
>>> > > >> > year
>>> free
>>> > > >> offer.
>>> > > >> > Unfortunately that doesn't cover windows and medium sized
>>> instances.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> I think a CI nightly build is essential for getting a 
>>> > > >> > >>> stable
>>> > > trunk.
>>> > > >> > Especially with more and more people contributing and not
> ruining
>>> > the
>>> > > >> > entire test suite.
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android 
>>> > > >> > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>> Am 19. Februar 2013 09:04:32 schrieb Om <
>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>:
>>> > > >> > >>>> Chris,
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> You are awesome!  I never thought of contacting them 
>>> > > >> > >>>> and
>>> just
>>> > > >> asking
>>> > > >> > :-)
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Agree with Justin, it needs to be a Windows instance.
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Please let me know how I can help.
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> Thanks,
>>> > > >> > >>>> Om
>>> > > >> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2013 11:02 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
>>> > > >> > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>>> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>>>
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Thanks for that info on the needed platform. The 
>>> > > >> > >>>> > good
>>> thing
>>> > > about
>>> > > >> > an open
>>> > > >> > >>>> > source project is, that anyone could setup a 
>>> > > >> > >>>> > ci-server
> and
>>> > > build
>>> > > >> > >>>> > the
>>> > > >> > >>>> > projects trunk. But I'll stick to asking them. We 
>>> > > >> > >>>> > can
>>> always
>>> > > >> decide
>>> > > >> > on how
>>> > > >> > >>>> > we do it a soon as we have something do decide about 
>>> > > >> > >>>> > :-)
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Chris
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android 
>>> > > >> > >>>> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> > Am 19. Februar 2013 07:52:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <
>>> > > >> > >>>> > jus...@classsoftware.com>:
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Hi,
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Nice one. Not sure if Apache policy would have an 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> impact
>>> on
>>> > > >> this,
>>> > > >> > as
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> we're not externally hosting anything or the list 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> just
>>> using
>>> > > it
>>> > > >> as
>>> > > >> > a test
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> server I can't see any obvious issues but they do 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> like
> to
>>> > keep
>>> > > >> > everything
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> in house (for legal and other reasons).
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> > I was intending on asking for a medium Windows 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> > machine
>>> (or
>>> > > >> > bigger) ...
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> if however Windows is not a must, I could try to 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> get
> from
>>> > them
>>> > > >> > what they
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> are willing to give in Linux ;-)
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Currently as the SDK only compiles on windows (or 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> OSX)
>>> and
>>> > the
>>> > > >> > tests only
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> run in the Flash Projector it really has to be 
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> windows
>>> (or
>>> > > OSX).
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >> Justin
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >>
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>> >
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >>>
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > --
>>> > > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> > > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > T. 06-51952295
>>> > > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > --
>>> > > >> > Ix Multimedia Software
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> > > >> > 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > T. 06-51952295
>>> > > >> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JP Bader
>>> Principal
>>> Zavteq, Inc.
>>> @lordB8r | j...@zavteq.com
>>> 608.692.2468
>>>
>>
>>
>



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