Maybe over the holiday break I'll try to get my MSDN subscription and VM.

-Alex

On 12/10/13 10:21 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
><bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> I think he has the same MSDN as me, which should give him enough
>>> 'credits' to run a medium sized VM for ever... I currently run the
>>> Mustella VM as a large instance for about half a month, then switch it
>>> to medium for the remainder. A bit of a hassle, but worth it to run
>>> Mustella smoothly, I think. A 'regular' Jenkins server should run
>>> perfectly fine on a medium instance.
>>>
>>> EdB
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, that is correct.  All Apache committers get a free MSDN
>>subscription
>> [1] which is supposed to be used for the benefit of Apache projects.  A
>> monthly credit for Windows Azure VMs comes with this subscription.
>>
>> My goal is to create a clone-able public image which has everything
>>needed
>> to run Mustella builds that each committer can instantiate and deploy.
>>I
>> want to make this whole process as simple as possible so that we can
>>get as
>> many committers' VMs up and running in no time.
>>
>> After that we will have one master Jenkins and set up all other VMs as
>> slaves.  This way, we can first distribute VMs to do runs of various
>>FP/AIR
>> combinations.  And then eventually, break down Mustella tests into
>>various
>> sections and have each slave run a subset, in order to reduce the time
>> taken for each Mustella run.
>> And we need to dedicate a VM specifically for building the SDK (that
>>Erik
>> wanted) so as to reduce our dependence on bui...@apache.org.
>>
>> I need a volunteer committer to help test out and document this process.
>> Any takers?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>>
>> [1]
>> 
>>https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/donated-licenses/msdn-sub
>>scription.html
>>
>
>
>After the recent Mustella failures, I remembered that we need a  VM for
>Alex's patch server as well.
>
>Thanks,
>Om
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> > I don't think we actually know the cause of the problem.  I am going
>>>to
>>> > continue to spend cycles to try to find out though.
>>> >
>>> > It would be nice to have an alternative to builds.a.o.  I'm not sure
>>>if
>>> it
>>> > will cost Om money to run a builds server.
>>> >
>>> > -Alex
>>> >
>>> > On 12/10/13 2:01 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I understand that.
>>> >>
>>> >>Actually, my "understanding" on this issue was that pixel bender
>>> compiler
>>> >>required some sort of hardware configuration (OpenGL, etc...) that
>>>were
>>> >>not present on the b.a.o. new Windows Jenkins slave node, so that's
>>>why
>>> >>the build was failing,  and the Apache Infra was reluctant to let us
>>> >>modify anything, or even access the VM ourselves.
>>> >>So that's why I was proposing a "software only" solution.
>>> >>
>>> >>Now, it seems from what Om is saying that we can set up and use our
>>>own
>>> >>Jenkins slave node VM.
>>> >>
>>> >>That, of course, is much preferable...
>>> >>
>>> >>Maurice
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Message d'origine-----
>>> >>De : Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl]
>>> >>Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre 2013 10:44
>>> >>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>>> >>Objet : Re: [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed
>>> >>
>>> >>Maurice,
>>> >>
>>> >>Your help is very much appreciated!
>>> >>
>>> >>I put "legal" in quotes, the issue is not really one of the law,
>>>more of
>>> >>the rules. An Apache release is supposed to be 'source only', and we
>>>if
>>> >>we can produce needed binaries from source, we keep only the source,
>>>not
>>> >>the artefacts themselves in the repo.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>EdB
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Maurice Amsellem
>>> >><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>In addition to the various "legal" issues with binaries in the
>>>repo.
>>> >>> I understand it's not a good idea to have binaries in the repo, so
>>>I
>>> >>>won't insist.
>>> >>> But please can you explain what are the legal issues of having
>>> binaries
>>> >>>in the repo?  Is this because of Adobe, or ASF rules ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On a side note, I was just trying to help, with my limited
>>> >>> understanding and knowledge, and because the email thread was
>>>titled
>>> >>> "help and advise needed" ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Maurice
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> >>> De : Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] Envoyé : mardi 10
>>> >>> décembre 2013 09:12 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re:
>>> >>> [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In addition to the various "legal" issues with binaries in the
>>>repo,
>>> >>>we'd be masking the cause of this failure. In order to prevent
>>>further
>>> >>>deterioration of the build process, we need to figure out what went
>>> >>>wrong and fix it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> EdB
>>> >>>
>>> >>> PS. Thanks for leaving the keyboard on the Mustella VM set to FR...
>>> >>> Took me while to figure out that I hadn't gone insane or if my
>>> >>> keyboard was broken ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Maurice Amsellem
>>> >>><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>> someone who does use the pbj's will grab the nightly and
>>>complain.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I don't understand.
>>> >>>> Why would someone complain if the pbj's are in the nightly?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> [From the other emai]
>>> >>>>>Apache repos aren't supposed to contain compiled code.  The pbj
>>>files
>>> >>>>>were removed during the initial release audit.
>>> >>>>>I don't think a workaround can involve checking in the pbj files.
>>>  But
>>> >>>>>we could borrow them from a prior release package temporarily.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>So we could make the compilation conditional on a env parameter,
>>>and
>>> >>>>>set that in the Jenkins job accordingly?
>>> >>>>>Yes but ...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Alex, the conversation is getting out synch, so I am not sure
>>>that I
>>> >>>>have understood what you said.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So can we include the pbj in the repo, and have a parameter to
>>> >>>>conditionally compile the pbj ?
>>> >>>> - This parameter would be set by default to do the compilation (so
>>> >>>> that folks can recompile)
>>> >>>> - and turned off on the b.a.o vm, with pre-compiled pbj's.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Maurice
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> >>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>> >>>
>>> >>> T. 06-51952295
>>> >>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>--
>>> >>Ix Multimedia Software
>>> >>
>>> >>Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> >>3521 VB Utrecht
>>> >>
>>> >>T. 06-51952295
>>> >>I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>
>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>
>>> T. 06-51952295
>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>
>>
>>

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