Hi,

if there are plans to introduce TLF on mobile TextInput this will change my
priorities about change the internals of MaskedTextInput component and will
only make it to preserve slot positions.

IMO, if now TLF give us a good performance in mobile this days it will be
very useful to make it happen since this will be more aligned to the Flex
philosophy. Right now we need to deal in different ways with TextInput in
mobile and browser and this defeat the "code once run everywhere".

So +1 to TLF support on mobile is performance is good! :)

Please let me know if that's are the plans.

Thanks!

Carlos




2014-03-23 21:08 GMT+01:00 Maurice Amsellem <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>:

> Found a number of tickets on this topic:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-26365  (closed as "later")
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34145 (closed)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34181 (In progress)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33750 (open)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-28107 (later)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-28103 (later)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-26169 (later)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-24502 (later)
>
> Maurice
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
> Envoyé : samedi 22 mars 2014 01:14
> À : dev@flex.apache.org
> Objet : RE: RTL support in mobile apps
>
> Yes, that might me the answer: so I need to "cancel" the flipping like I
> did for StageText (and like is done in spark Label).
> I will try this tomorrow.
>
> Still does not explain why TextField accepts bidi text now ?
>
> Maurice
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : samedi 22 mars 2014
> 01:09 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: RTL support in mobile apps
>
> Again, I was not highly involved in this code, but IIRC, the TextLines are
> never flipped, so if you choose a flipped layoutDirection the TextLines are
> re-flipped.  But if you start flipping TextFields without embedded text
> they go blank.
>
> Does that explain what you're seeing?
>
> -Alex
>
> On 3/21/14 5:00 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Alex.  That was also my understanding.
> >
> >Regarding TextInput / TextArea, there is no issue with regard to RTL in
> >using StageText ( embedded in StyleableStageText or ScrollableStageText) .
> >
> >Now something strange that gets me puzzled.
> >
> >I did some experiments with mobile components that use TextField
> >(actually StyleableTextField) and I managed to displayed Arabic/Hebrew
> >(list , titles and nav bar)
> >
> >https://www.dropbox.com/s/4e4untcp3f4jeb2/List_arabic_LTR.png
> >
> >But this works only if the surrounding View or the application
> >layoutDirection is set to "ltr".
> >And indeed, you notice that the text is RTL but the layout is still LTR.
> >
> >Now, if I set layoutDirection to RTL either at the Application or View
> >, then everything disappears:
> >
> >https://www.dropbox.com/s/jzu1veecjm64m51/list_Arabic_RTL.png
> >
> >
> >I thought that layoutDirection = RTL was "merely" applying a mirroring
> >transform to the display.
> >
> >I am confused.
> >
> >Maurice
> >
> >-----Message d'origine-----
> >De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : samedi 22 mars 2014
> >00:44 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: RTL support in mobile apps
> >
> >I wasn't on the mobile components team (I did some mobile work but
> >mostly worked on other SDK stuff), but fundamentally, if there's a
> >TextField involved, then there is no RTL support.  You need TextLines
> >for RTL.  You may be able to swap in the "desktop" skins for
> >TextInput/TextArea and pay the performance and memory hit to get RTL
> >text, but then I'm not sure how well StageText will work with that, if
> >at all.  Essentially, the mobile team traded off RTL support for better
> >performance.  Now, that was several years ago and phones and tablets
> >are faster, so it might be worth revisiting that decision.
> >
> >-Alex
> >
> >On 3/21/14 3:41 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Team,
> >>
> >>Ori Segal has reported a problem in TextInput default skin with RTL
> >>(Hebrew, arabic) layout.
> >>I have fixed this problem.
> >>
> >>Now he has reported a problem in TextInput "prompt" text not being
> >>displayed in RTL.
> >>
> >>So I did a small test: set layoutDirection="rtl" to a sample mobile
> >>app (with buttons, mobilegrid, etc..) and almost every text disappeared.
> >>
> >>The only texts that seem to be displayed correctly are:
> >>- TextInput / TextArea with the default text (that is using native
> >>StageText)
> >>- spark Label, that is using TextLine (and the new FTE/TLF engine).
> >>Everything else, that uses the mobile-optimized StyleableTextField,
> >>will not display RTL (apparently because it's based on the old
> >>TextField engine).
> >>
> >>Reading the articles below, it seems clear enough that RTL is NOT
> >>supported on AIR mobile (with a few exceptions):
> >>
> >>http://sourceforge.net/adobe/flexsdk/wiki/Mobile%20Text%20Components/
> >>http://help.adobe.com/en_US/flex/using/WS02f7d8d4857b1677-165a04e11269
> >>5
> >>1a2
> >>d98-7ffe.html
> >>http://help.adobe.com/en_US/flex/using/WS02f7d8d4857b1677-165a04e11269
> >>5
> >>1a2
> >>d98-7ffd.html
> >>
> >>Alex, as you seem to have been involved in that, do you confirm?
> >>
> >>Something else:
> >>The first article says:
> >>" Primarily for performance reasons and support for native predictive
> >>text input and editing, mobile will use TextField-based text in all
> >>critical areas. This is expected to be a short-term solution until a
> >>performant version of FTE arrives on mobile."
> >>
> >>So has FTE been optimized for mobile since the article was written ,
> >>for example in AIR 4.0?
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Maurice
> >
>
>


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