On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

> I know that requiring Jude to use patches will slow things down, but right
> now his work isn't happening at Apache so it isn't clear we can/should use
> that in considering committership for him, and also, all of his work is
> not granted to Apache so really, you can't land your changes back in the
> Apache repo without having Jude file an ICLA and/or Software Grant.
>
> I think we could argue that a commit hook would put his work "in" the
> open, but I'm still concerned about the legal issues around his work.
>
>
Having Jude sign an ICLA with ASF is probably the easiest approach.

Jude, will that work?

Thanks,
Om


> -Alex
>
> On 6/5/14 2:56 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I’m open to suggestions. I could invite other folks to the
> >> repository to see what we’re doing. I could also make it public. I could
> >> also port the code over to the main Apache git repository.
> >>
> >> I’m kind of hesitant to do the last option right now, because I can’t
> >> really afford the time it would take me to do that right now… It’s
> >>going to
> >> be quite a bit of work merging the code back.
> >>
> >>
> >You could do one of these based on your preference:
> >
> >1.  In your github project, add comm...@flex.apache.org as your
> >post-commit
> >email hook.  This way, we can all take a look at the progress of the
> >feature.  We can keep track of Jude's contribution directly as well.  When
> >the feature is complete, just copy over the code to the Apache Flex git
> >repo.
> >
> >2.  Create a new branch in our own git and continue to check in stuff
> >there.  You might have to keep getting patches from Jude and keep
> >committing them with appropriate comments.
> >
> >3.  Fork your current project into a whiteboard project on ApacheFlex
> >github repo.  Jude can in turn fork the whiteboard project and send your
> >pull requests as needed.  I can hook it up to send commit emails to
> >comm...@flex.apache.org.  (I think this is the most straightforward and
> >best option)
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Om
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > IMO, it would have been better to have Jude work via JIRA for a bit
> >>so we
> >> > could see his work and collaboration in the open which would have
> >> probably
> >> > resulted in him being voted in as a committer.
> >> >
> >> > And, of course, it isn't too late to start doing that.
> >> >
> >> > -Alex
> >> >
> >> > On 6/5/14 2:02 PM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> BTW, ³very active² is 59 commits since March 26. (I was working on it
> >> >> myself before that.)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> FWIW, Jude and I have both been very active on the TLF table
> >>support.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We¹ve been working on a private Github repository because Jude is
> >>not a
> >> >>> committer and things are still quite unstable.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Current status is as follows:
> >> >>> * Tables render with cell strokes and backgrounds
> >> >>> * Selections of cell content and cell ranges work.
> >> >>> * Editing of cell content and surrounding text works
> >> >>> * Tables recompose as needed when cell content changes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We¹ve radically changed the way table and sub elements are handled.
> >> >>> * Columns and rows are not normal children. They are informational
> >> only.
> >> >>> * Content within cells belong to a separate TextFlow.
> >> >>> * We¹ve introduced the concept of nested TextFlows and
> >> >>> SelectionManagers/EditManagers which are nested within each other.
> >> >>> Control is passed between parent and child SelectionManagers as
> >>needed.
> >> >>> * We¹ve introduced table blocks used for composition in a similar
> >> >>> manner to how TextFlowLines are used.
> >> >>> * The logic used for composition and selection is much more
> >> >>> understandable than what was originally written.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Work still needed:
> >> >>> * Lots of little rendering issues need to be resolved.
> >> >>> * Some normalization logic still needs to be implemented.
> >> >>> * Cell range selection needs to be improved.
> >> >>> * Text selection which spans tables needs work.
> >> >>> * Table editing operations still need to be done.
> >> >>> * Work still needs to be done relating to header and footer cells
> >> >>> * There¹s probably bugs related to cells which span rows/columns.
> >> >>> * Lots of tests need to be created.
> >> >>> * Markup import needs work.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That¹s about it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I¹m guessing it¹ll be in shape where we can think about merging it
> >>back
> >> >>> into the develop branch in a couple of weeks.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Harbs
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 6/5/14 5:00 AM, "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> In the past three months we've continued to see:
> >> >>>>>> - Continued JIRA activity (more bugs raised than resolved
> >>however)
> >> >>>>> Yep - we need more user and committers active here in helping to
> >>fix
> >> >>>>> bugs.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> - More committers becoming active again.
> >> >>>>> Looks steady to me:
> >> >>>>> http://www.ohloh.net/p/ApacheFlex/contributors/summary
> >> >>>> Hmm.  It felt like we saw more activity like Fred on FDB, Chris on
> >> >>>> Maven
> >> >>>> and contributions from Nick and MikeL.  I'm tempted to leave it in.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> - Fewer new folks contributing and eventually becoming
> >>committers.
> >> >>>>> IMO (from mail list sign ups and installs that we have increased
> >>user
> >> >>>>> activity but we don't seem to be good at encouraging them to
> >> >>>>> contribute
> >> >>>>> more than JIRA reports. There's been a few exceptions ie we've
> >>just
> >> >>>>> had
> >> >>>>> some help with the Android skins.
> >> >>>> Are you suggestion that we not say this in the report?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -Alex
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

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