I’m actually paying Jude to work on this, so it’s probably not necessary for 
him to sign anything.

I’m very concerned about time and overhead invested in this (I’m on a really 
tight schedule), so of the three options that Om mentioned, adding the email 
hook is the only one I can see working.

Personally, I think opening up the Github repository is probably the easiest 
option.

On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:16 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

> I know that requiring Jude to use patches will slow things down, but right
> now his work isn't happening at Apache so it isn't clear we can/should use
> that in considering committership for him, and also, all of his work is
> not granted to Apache so really, you can't land your changes back in the
> Apache repo without having Jude file an ICLA and/or Software Grant.
> 
> I think we could argue that a commit hook would put his work "in" the
> open, but I'm still concerned about the legal issues around his work.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On 6/5/14 2:56 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I’m open to suggestions. I could invite other folks to the
>>> repository to see what we’re doing. I could also make it public. I could
>>> also port the code over to the main Apache git repository.
>>> 
>>> I’m kind of hesitant to do the last option right now, because I can’t
>>> really afford the time it would take me to do that right now… It’s
>>> going to
>>> be quite a bit of work merging the code back.
>>> 
>>> 
>> You could do one of these based on your preference:
>> 
>> 1.  In your github project, add comm...@flex.apache.org as your
>> post-commit
>> email hook.  This way, we can all take a look at the progress of the
>> feature.  We can keep track of Jude's contribution directly as well.  When
>> the feature is complete, just copy over the code to the Apache Flex git
>> repo.
>> 
>> 2.  Create a new branch in our own git and continue to check in stuff
>> there.  You might have to keep getting patches from Jude and keep
>> committing them with appropriate comments.
>> 
>> 3.  Fork your current project into a whiteboard project on ApacheFlex
>> github repo.  Jude can in turn fork the whiteboard project and send your
>> pull requests as needed.  I can hook it up to send commit emails to
>> comm...@flex.apache.org.  (I think this is the most straightforward and
>> best option)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> IMO, it would have been better to have Jude work via JIRA for a bit
>>> so we
>>>> could see his work and collaboration in the open which would have
>>> probably
>>>> resulted in him being voted in as a committer.
>>>> 
>>>> And, of course, it isn't too late to start doing that.
>>>> 
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/5/14 2:02 PM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, ³very active² is 59 commits since March 26. (I was working on it
>>>>> myself before that.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> FWIW, Jude and I have both been very active on the TLF table
>>> support.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We¹ve been working on a private Github repository because Jude is
>>> not a
>>>>>> committer and things are still quite unstable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Current status is as follows:
>>>>>> * Tables render with cell strokes and backgrounds
>>>>>> * Selections of cell content and cell ranges work.
>>>>>> * Editing of cell content and surrounding text works
>>>>>> * Tables recompose as needed when cell content changes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We¹ve radically changed the way table and sub elements are handled.
>>>>>> * Columns and rows are not normal children. They are informational
>>> only.
>>>>>> * Content within cells belong to a separate TextFlow.
>>>>>> * We¹ve introduced the concept of nested TextFlows and
>>>>>> SelectionManagers/EditManagers which are nested within each other.
>>>>>> Control is passed between parent and child SelectionManagers as
>>> needed.
>>>>>> * We¹ve introduced table blocks used for composition in a similar
>>>>>> manner to how TextFlowLines are used.
>>>>>> * The logic used for composition and selection is much more
>>>>>> understandable than what was originally written.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Work still needed:
>>>>>> * Lots of little rendering issues need to be resolved.
>>>>>> * Some normalization logic still needs to be implemented.
>>>>>> * Cell range selection needs to be improved.
>>>>>> * Text selection which spans tables needs work.
>>>>>> * Table editing operations still need to be done.
>>>>>> * Work still needs to be done relating to header and footer cells
>>>>>> * There¹s probably bugs related to cells which span rows/columns.
>>>>>> * Lots of tests need to be created.
>>>>>> * Markup import needs work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That¹s about it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I¹m guessing it¹ll be in shape where we can think about merging it
>>> back
>>>>>> into the develop branch in a couple of weeks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/5/14 5:00 AM, "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In the past three months we've continued to see:
>>>>>>>>> - Continued JIRA activity (more bugs raised than resolved
>>> however)
>>>>>>>> Yep - we need more user and committers active here in helping to
>>> fix
>>>>>>>> bugs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - More committers becoming active again.
>>>>>>>> Looks steady to me:
>>>>>>>> http://www.ohloh.net/p/ApacheFlex/contributors/summary
>>>>>>> Hmm.  It felt like we saw more activity like Fred on FDB, Chris on
>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>> and contributions from Nick and MikeL.  I'm tempted to leave it in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Fewer new folks contributing and eventually becoming
>>> committers.
>>>>>>>> IMO (from mail list sign ups and installs that we have increased
>>> user
>>>>>>>> activity but we don't seem to be good at encouraging them to
>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>> more than JIRA reports. There's been a few exceptions ie we've
>>> just
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> some help with the Android skins.
>>>>>>> Are you suggestion that we not say this in the report?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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