On 2/3/16, 5:49 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
<omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just worked out that I should be able to make it, not 100% sure what
>>I’ll
>> submit as a talk however. Would an Introduction to Flex fit into the
>>client
>> side track?
>>
>
>I think it would.  Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile
>instead?  I would like to do it, but I wont have bandwidth for two talks
>in
>this conference.

You guys would know better since you've been to ApacheCons in 2015, but I
still find myself wondering what it will take to either 1) cause someone
who wouldn't normally attend ApacheCon to show up to learn more about
client-side stuff, or 2) cause someone who came to ApacheCon to learn
about server-side stuff to attend a client-oriented talk.  I also wonder
if attendance numbers really matter.  Are we competing for rooms against
other tracks and won't get accepted based on past attendance records or
will the conference organizers accept just about any track because they
have space?  If the former, we need to figure out how to get more folks to
attend.

I saw Justin do an introductory Flex presentation at ApacheCon in
Portland.  Justin does a really good job, but the question remains whether
it is the right topic for the demographic we expect.  Justin's
presentation would be great at any 360|Flex, where people came to learn
about Flex, but the people at the two ApacheCons I've attended seem
different.  Maybe making it more of an overview of the project by mixing
in more about Mobile and AIR might make it more interesting to the
server-side guy.  IMO, it is unlikely the server-side person will become a
Flex coder.  But what could we present in an overview such that he/she
learns something worth taking back to his client folks?  Or maybe the
server-oriented folks who attend still hear the echoes of negative news
about Flash/AIR stuff and are less likely to show up unless we talk more
about targeting JS.  Or maybe the angle really should be that the
server-side folks should learn Flex so they don't have to wait on the
client team?  Or maybe the content of the presentation is fine, but
instead of a title like "Introduction to Flex" it should be something like
"Rapid Cross-Platform Client and App Development with Apache Flex".   I
don't really know, just brainstorming.

We keep hearing that AIR is winning as a runtime in many places.  Are
folks using Flex to create those AIR apps?  Have we tried to tell folks
about that at ApacheCon?  I've seen other Apache projects not choose Flex
for their cross-platform UI.  Why is that?  What could we say at ApacheCon
that might make them choose Flex to build an AIR app?

Anyway, I don't know how talks are selected for tracks, but I would
imagine anything Justin wants to talk about that relates to Apache Flex
would fit in the client category.

Thoughts?
-Alex

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