On 20/09/17 19:08, Alex Harui wrote:
> AIUI, we are going to build at least three sites:
> 
> 1) Royale.apache.org is a requirement.  And I think we have to use ASF CMS
> and whatever markup language it requires unless we generate html and js
> elsewhere and copy it in, which would be the case for any FlexJS/Royale
> apps.

No need to use the CMS.

Any system the project wants that results in a bunch of static files in
the right place in svn or git is fine.

Mark

> 
> 2) https://github.com/apache/royale.  Folks are going to land here quite
> often.  My understanding is that GH Pages can affect what folks land on.
> It doesn't have to be the standard page with the README.MD and a folder of
> files.  But I could be wrong about that.  Many GH projects mention a
> website on the standard landing page.  I don't know if we can make that
> something other than royale.apache.org.  We'll find out if we get to use
> GitBox.  If we can't I don't think we get to use GH Pages or control the
> landing page.
> 
> 3) Facebook/Royale.
> 
> The development of these 3 sites must be done the Apache Way and I suspect
> that there will be plenty of discussion on it.  I don't want to put stones
> in the road in front of Carlos.  I think he should go and build what he
> wants to build, host it on his hardware and show it to us.  Then we can
> ask for the minimum tweaks required to get approval as royale.xx.  If we
> can't agree on how to do that, Carlos can always publish it as
> royale.codeoscopic.com.  Domains of that pattern are supposedly easier to
> approve.
> 
> Also, we don't need to decide on royale.xx vs royale.yy if we can afford
> to get both.
> 
> Does that sound reasonable?
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On 9/20/17, 10:52 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I was not thinking in promote Codeoscopic, but if I can put a link in some
>> place, it would be ok.
>> In the end Codeoscopic is a product company and its customers are
>> insurance
>> companies, so there's no much interest for me in that regard or at least I
>> can see a logic relation since we don't sell "flex services" anymore.
>>
>> 2017-09-20 19:49 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>>
>>> True, that's a lot of rules.  Part of that is because we owe our hosts
>>> (the ASF) some "props".
>>>
>>> But that may be why it is easier for us to approve Carlos to do what we
>>> wants outside the project.  It will free him most of these rules.  AIUI,
>>> the only rules would then be:
>>> 1) make sure Apache is mentioned often enough
>>> 2) make sure there are enough links back to royale.apache.org
>>> 3) make sure he doesn't promote his company more than the project. (I
>>> think he is allowed to say the site is hosted by his company and some
>>> promotional info).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On 9/20/17, 10:36 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I think if we grab a domain and donate it to the ASF, that it can't
>>> be
>>>>> hosted on non-ASF hardware.  That would need to be verified.
>>>>> Maybe it would be better for the Royale PMC to approve Royale.xx as a
>>>>> third-party domain under Carlos's control.  I think that's allowed.
>>> The
>>>>> policy [1] says that "in general" it is NOT allowed, but "in general"
>>>>> implies it isn't a hard and fast rule.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, things under the PMC's control have certain obligations.  It
>>> has to
>>>>> be sustainable by "anyone".  How many folks know how to edit
>>> WordPress
>>>>> themes?  I don't.  I always choose one of their default themes.  It
>>>>> might
>>>>> have to be hosted or host-able by Apache Infra, and I don't know if
>>> they
>>>>> are ok with WordPress.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is an awful lot of rules that seem to work against the creativity
>>> of
>>>> the project...
>>>>
>>>> EdB
>>>>
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