Yep, Marta's concern is definitely a great point in terms of maintenance costs.
What I would like to highlight is a place to collect scattered materials `altogether` so that they are easy to search, tag, and update. In that sense, I really like Fabian's idea. It is even better if we could have some level of interaction so that people can comment and give feedback to the author directly and ask questions under those materials. We can even analyze what type of materials are more popular based on feedback, and accordingly, we can adjust our promotion strategy. I think these would be great complementation to what we can achieve solely through mailing lists, slack, or stack overflow today. I can ask whether the team running to promote the Flink community in China can help to build such a site if appropriate. It should not be too difficult if we do not intend to do fancy stuff :-). What do you say? Best Yuan On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:54 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote: > Fabian's idea is definitely nice, if we find somebody who wants to develop > such a site :) > > Marta has raised valid concerns. Maybe we could start by creating a Wiki > page, that nicely categorizes the different items. > I'm happy to prominently link the Wiki page from the "Powered By" and > Starting page. > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:05 AM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I like the idea of having a place to collect material (blogs, talk > > recordings, slides) on Flink. > > As Robert said, we had this before and dropped it at some point because > the > > content became stale. > > Also I feel we would need something more dynamic than a static website > > (like flink.apache.org) but something with search, tags, up/down votes. > > > > What do you think about collecting content on an external site similar to > > flink-packages.org. > > Maybe flink-packages.org can be extended to also list content pieces or > a > > new page (flink-content.org/flink-materials.org/???) could be built. > > This is of course significantly more work, but might pay off because it > can > > offer more interaction and we could also allow externals (i.e, > > non-committers) to post new content. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Cheers, Fabian > > > > > > Am Mo., 11. Mai 2020 um 09:44 Uhr schrieb Marta Paes Moreira < > > ma...@ververica.com>: > > > > > Hi, Yuan! > > > > > > Thanks for starting this discussion! It would be really good to make > > those > > > resources more prominent in the Flink website somehow. > > > > > > You can find an example close to the idea you're bringing up in [1]. My > > > concern is that placing all resources in a page can be hard to maintain > > and > > > a bit overwhelming. For users, it also ends up being hard to pinpoint > > what > > > they are looking for if there is too much material. > > > > > > Rather than trying to maintain such a page, I think it could be > valuable > > to > > > rethink the "Use Cases" section of the website and incorporate some > > > relevant materials in association with the right context (e.g. > industry, > > > use case), then point users to a different place where they can find > more > > > (e.g. the Flink Forward playlist/Slideshare or other dedicated Flink > > > channel). > > > > > > For blogposts, what we usually do is reach out to the authors of > > > blogposts that are relevant to the community, but posted elsewhere, and > > ask > > > to submit them to the Flink blog as well. Could this also be an option > > for > > > the Chinese version of the blog? As far as I see, for now it's just a > > > mirror of the English blog. > > > > > > Marta > > > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink > / > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Various+Presentations > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:11 AM Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > I am looking for a home to put and organize materials (mostly in > > Chinese) > > > > altogether for easier reference or search in the future. > > > > > > > > Those materials mainly include: > > > > - video records for live broadcasting of Flink related content. For > > > > example, the set of selected Flink Forward talks reinterpreted and > > > > broadcasted in Chinese. > > > > - regular meet up topics, minutes, and PPTs. Meet-ups are held twice > > > every > > > > month on average. > > > > - write-ups/blogs to share user experiences e.t.c. > > > > > > > > Currently, those materials are published through the official Flink > > > WeChat > > > > account. The WeChat public account is a good way to “publish” > > > information, > > > > but very difficult to search or organize afterwards. Personally, I > find > > > > those materials are particularly helpful to users/developers not very > > > > familiar with Flink, me, as an example. Hence finding a place > > > easy-to-find > > > > such materials is very important. > > > > > > > > There are several options we can adopt, but specifically, these > > materials > > > > are non-commercial stuff and purely for promoting the Flink > community, > > so > > > > better not be tagged with any commercial trademarks. > > > > > > > > I was wondering how the English communities organize such materials? > > Can > > > we > > > > simply put them under https://flink.apache.org/ as a subcategory? > > like > > > > https://flink.apache.org/cn > > > > > > > > Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks ahead! > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Yuan > > > > > > > > > >
