Thanks for working on this! As a side note: If we are going to use flink-learning.org, the owner of the domain needs to request permission to use the Flink brand from the Flink PMC. Feel free to reach out to me privately if you need help with this. I have previously requested flink-packages.org from the PMC.
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:09 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Yuan, > > Thanks for proposal. It would be very helpful to have a well organized > learning site for Flink usrs. I also like the idea and the name of > flink-learning.org. It looks symmetric with flink-package.org. > > Thanks, > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:09 PM Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, everyone for the feedback and suggestions! > > > > I was thinking about whether to call the external site as " > > flink-learning.org"? > > > > If nobody disagrees upon this whole idea, we will start with a demo of > the > > least functionalities discussed > > - several collections of learning materials (videos, ppts, blogs, > > examples) with search > > - meets up and other activities publishing > > - and so on. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:33 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > I think this is a very good idea. With a team committed to keep the > site > > up > > > to date the main concern should also be resolved. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Till > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:25 PM Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Yep, Marta's concern is definitely a great point in terms of > > maintenance > > > > costs. > > > > > > > > What I would like to highlight is a place to collect scattered > > materials > > > > `altogether` so that they are easy to search, tag, and update. In > that > > > > sense, I really like Fabian's idea. > > > > > > > > It is even better if we could have some level of interaction so that > > > people > > > > can comment and give feedback to the author directly and ask > questions > > > > under those materials. We can even analyze what type of materials are > > > more > > > > popular based on feedback, and accordingly, we can adjust our > promotion > > > > strategy. I think these would be great complementation to what we can > > > > achieve solely through mailing lists, slack, or stack overflow today. > > > > > > > > I can ask whether the team running to promote the Flink community in > > > China > > > > can help to build such a site if appropriate. It should not be too > > > > difficult if we do not intend to do fancy stuff :-). > > > > > > > > What do you say? > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Yuan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:54 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fabian's idea is definitely nice, if we find somebody who wants to > > > > develop > > > > > such a site :) > > > > > > > > > > Marta has raised valid concerns. Maybe we could start by creating a > > > Wiki > > > > > page, that nicely categorizes the different items. > > > > > I'm happy to prominently link the Wiki page from the "Powered By" > and > > > > > Starting page. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:05 AM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I like the idea of having a place to collect material (blogs, > talk > > > > > > recordings, slides) on Flink. > > > > > > As Robert said, we had this before and dropped it at some point > > > because > > > > > the > > > > > > content became stale. > > > > > > Also I feel we would need something more dynamic than a static > > > website > > > > > > (like flink.apache.org) but something with search, tags, up/down > > > > votes. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about collecting content on an external site > > > similar > > > > to > > > > > > flink-packages.org. > > > > > > Maybe flink-packages.org can be extended to also list content > > pieces > > > > or > > > > > a > > > > > > new page (flink-content.org/flink-materials.org/???) could be > > built. > > > > > > This is of course significantly more work, but might pay off > > because > > > it > > > > > can > > > > > > offer more interaction and we could also allow externals (i.e, > > > > > > non-committers) to post new content. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Fabian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Mo., 11. Mai 2020 um 09:44 Uhr schrieb Marta Paes Moreira < > > > > > > ma...@ververica.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Yuan! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for starting this discussion! It would be really good to > > > make > > > > > > those > > > > > > > resources more prominent in the Flink website somehow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find an example close to the idea you're bringing up in > > > [1]. > > > > My > > > > > > > concern is that placing all resources in a page can be hard to > > > > maintain > > > > > > and > > > > > > > a bit overwhelming. For users, it also ends up being hard to > > > pinpoint > > > > > > what > > > > > > > they are looking for if there is too much material. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rather than trying to maintain such a page, I think it could be > > > > > valuable > > > > > > to > > > > > > > rethink the "Use Cases" section of the website and incorporate > > some > > > > > > > relevant materials in association with the right context (e.g. > > > > > industry, > > > > > > > use case), then point users to a different place where they can > > > find > > > > > more > > > > > > > (e.g. the Flink Forward playlist/Slideshare or other dedicated > > > Flink > > > > > > > channel). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For blogposts, what we usually do is reach out to the authors > of > > > > > > > blogposts that are relevant to the community, but posted > > elsewhere, > > > > and > > > > > > ask > > > > > > > to submit them to the Flink blog as well. Could this also be an > > > > option > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the Chinese version of the blog? As far as I see, for now it's > > > just a > > > > > > > mirror of the English blog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Various+Presentations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:11 AM Yuan Mei < > yuanmei.w...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for a home to put and organize materials (mostly > > in > > > > > > Chinese) > > > > > > > > altogether for easier reference or search in the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those materials mainly include: > > > > > > > > - video records for live broadcasting of Flink related > content. > > > > For > > > > > > > > example, the set of selected Flink Forward talks > reinterpreted > > > and > > > > > > > > broadcasted in Chinese. > > > > > > > > - regular meet up topics, minutes, and PPTs. Meet-ups are > held > > > > twice > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > month on average. > > > > > > > > - write-ups/blogs to share user experiences e.t.c. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, those materials are published through the official > > > Flink > > > > > > > WeChat > > > > > > > > account. The WeChat public account is a good way to “publish” > > > > > > > information, > > > > > > > > but very difficult to search or organize afterwards. > > Personally, > > > I > > > > > find > > > > > > > > those materials are particularly helpful to users/developers > > not > > > > very > > > > > > > > familiar with Flink, me, as an example. Hence finding a place > > > > > > > easy-to-find > > > > > > > > such materials is very important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are several options we can adopt, but specifically, > these > > > > > > materials > > > > > > > > are non-commercial stuff and purely for promoting the Flink > > > > > community, > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > better not be tagged with any commercial trademarks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering how the English communities organize such > > > > materials? > > > > > > Can > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > simply put them under https://flink.apache.org/ as a > > > subcategory? > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > https://flink.apache.org/cn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks ahead! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yuan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
