+1 for dropping Mesos support. There was no feedback opposing the direction from the community in the most-recent discussion [1,2] on deprecating it.
Matthias [1] http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/SURVEY-Remove-Mesos-support-td45974.html [2] http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/VOTE-Deprecating-Mesos-support-td50142.html On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 4:21 AM Yangze Guo <karma...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 for dropping if there is no strong demand from the community. > > I'm willing to help with the removal of e2e tests part. > > Best, > Yangze Guo > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:09 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > +1 for dropping. > > > > I like Seth's idea. I don't have any real Mesos experience either. > > According to this article [1], it looks like we can deploy a standalone > > cluster on Mesos similar to Kubernetes. However, we should only do it if > > there's indeed a strong demand from the community for deploying a > > latest version of Flink on Mesos. > > > > Thank you~ > > > > Xintong Song > > > > > > [1] https://www.baeldung.com/ops/mesos-kubernetes-comparison > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:59 PM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > I am in favor of dropping the support for Mesos. > > > > > > In terms of the landscape for users leveraging Mesos for the kind of > > > workloads Flink is used, I think it is on the decline. > > > > > > +1 from me > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry if this is a naive question, I don't have any real Mesos > > > experience. > > > > Is it possible to deploy a standalone cluster on top of Mesos in the > same > > > > way you can with Kubernetes? If so, and there is still Mesos demand > from > > > > the community, we could document that process as the recommended > > > deployment > > > > mode going forward. > > > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:02 AM Arvid Heise <ar...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 for dropping. Frankly speaking, I don't see it having any future > > > (and > > > > > D2iQ > > > > > agrees). > > > > > > > > > > If there is a surprisingly huge demand, I'd try to evaluate > plugins for > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:46 AM Till Rohrmann < > trohrm...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'd be ok with dropping support for Mesos if it helps us to > clear our > > > > > > dependencies in the flink-runtime module. If we do it, then we > should > > > > > > probably update our documentation with a pointer to the latest > Flink > > > > > > version that supports Mesos in case of users strictly need Mesos. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Till > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:29 AM Chesnay Schepler < > > > ches...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last week I spent some time looking into making flink-runtime > scala > > > > > > > free, which effectively means to move the Akka-reliant classes > to > > > > > > > another module, and load that module along with Akka and all of > > > it's > > > > > > > dependencies (including Scala) through a separate classloader. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would finally decouple the Scala versions required by the > > > > runtime > > > > > > > and API, and would allow us to upgrade Akka as we'd no longer > be > > > > > limited > > > > > > > to Scala 2.11. It would rid the classpath of a few > dependencies, > > > and > > > > > > > remove the need for scala suffixes on quite a few modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, our Mesos support has unfortunately a hard dependency > on > > > > Akka, > > > > > > > which naturally does not play well with the goal of isolating > Akka > > > in > > > > > > > it's own ClassLoader. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To solve this issue I was thinking of simple dropping > flink-mesos > > > in > > > > > > > 1.14 (it was deprecated in 1.13). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth be told, I picked this option because it is the easiest > to > > > do. > > > > We > > > > > > > _could_ probably make things work somehow (likely by shipping a > > > > second > > > > > > > Akka version just for flink-mesos), but it doesn't seem worth > the > > > > > hassle > > > > > > > and would void some of the benefits. So far we kept flink-mesos > > > > around, > > > > > > > despite not really developing it further, because it didn't > hurt to > > > > > have > > > > > > > it in still in Flink, but this has now changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me what you think. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
