+1 for dropping mesos support.

AFAIK, mesos(including marathon for the container management) is phasing
out gradually and has been replaced with Kubernetes in the containerized
world.


Best,
Yang

Matthias Pohl <matth...@ververica.com> 于2021年6月23日周三 下午2:04写道:

> +1 for dropping Mesos support. There was no feedback opposing the direction
> from the community in the most-recent discussion [1,2] on deprecating it.
>
> Matthias
>
> [1]
>
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/SURVEY-Remove-Mesos-support-td45974.html
> [2]
>
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/VOTE-Deprecating-Mesos-support-td50142.html
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 4:21 AM Yangze Guo <karma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 for dropping if there is no strong demand from the community.
> >
> > I'm willing to help with the removal of e2e tests part.
> >
> > Best,
> > Yangze Guo
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:09 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 for dropping.
> > >
> > > I like Seth's idea. I don't have any real Mesos experience either.
> > > According to this article [1], it looks like we can deploy a standalone
> > > cluster on Mesos similar to Kubernetes. However, we should only do it
> if
> > > there's indeed a strong demand from the community for deploying a
> > > latest version of Flink on Mesos.
> > >
> > > Thank you~
> > >
> > > Xintong Song
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.baeldung.com/ops/mesos-kubernetes-comparison
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:59 PM Israel Ekpo <israele...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am in favor of dropping the support for Mesos.
> > > >
> > > > In terms of the landscape for users leveraging Mesos for the kind of
> > > > workloads Flink is used, I think it is on the decline.
> > > >
> > > > +1 from me
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM Seth Wiesman <sjwies...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry if this is a naive question, I don't have any real Mesos
> > > > experience.
> > > > > Is it possible to deploy a standalone cluster on top of Mesos in
> the
> > same
> > > > > way you can with Kubernetes? If so, and there is still Mesos demand
> > from
> > > > > the community, we could document that process as the recommended
> > > > deployment
> > > > > mode going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seth
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:02 AM Arvid Heise <ar...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for dropping. Frankly speaking, I don't see it having any
> future
> > > > (and
> > > > > > D2iQ
> > > > > > agrees).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a surprisingly huge demand, I'd try to evaluate
> > plugins for
> > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:46 AM Till Rohrmann <
> > trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd be ok with dropping support for Mesos if it helps us to
> > clear our
> > > > > > > dependencies in the flink-runtime module. If we do it, then we
> > should
> > > > > > > probably update our documentation with a pointer to the latest
> > Flink
> > > > > > > version that supports Mesos in case of users strictly need
> Mesos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Till
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:29 AM Chesnay Schepler <
> > > > ches...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Last week I spent some time looking into making flink-runtime
> > scala
> > > > > > > > free, which effectively means to move the Akka-reliant
> classes
> > to
> > > > > > > > another module, and load that module along with Akka and all
> of
> > > > it's
> > > > > > > > dependencies (including Scala) through a separate
> classloader.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This would finally decouple the Scala versions required by
> the
> > > > > runtime
> > > > > > > > and API, and would allow us to upgrade Akka as we'd no longer
> > be
> > > > > > limited
> > > > > > > > to Scala 2.11. It would rid the classpath of a few
> > dependencies,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > remove the need for scala suffixes on quite a few modules.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > However, our Mesos support has unfortunately a hard
> dependency
> > on
> > > > > Akka,
> > > > > > > > which naturally does not play well with the goal of isolating
> > Akka
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > it's own ClassLoader.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To solve this issue I was thinking of simple dropping
> > flink-mesos
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > 1.14 (it was deprecated in 1.13).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Truth be told, I picked this option because it is the easiest
> > to
> > > > do.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > > > _could_ probably make things work somehow (likely by
> shipping a
> > > > > second
> > > > > > > > Akka version just for flink-mesos), but it doesn't seem worth
> > the
> > > > > > hassle
> > > > > > > > and would void some of the benefits. So far we kept
> flink-mesos
> > > > > around,
> > > > > > > > despite not really developing it further, because it didn't
> > hurt to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > it in still in Flink, but this has now changed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please tell me what you think.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>

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