Hi Jark,

Fair enough. Let's do it like you suggested. Thanks!

Best regards,
Jing

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 6:00 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jing,
>
> This thread is for discussing the roadmap for versions 1.18, 2.0, and even
> more.
> One of the outcomes of this discussion will be an updated version of the
> current roadmap.
> Let's work together on refining the roadmap in this thread.
>
> Best,
> Jark
>
> On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 23:25, Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jark,
> >
> > Thanks for driving it! For point 2, since we are developing 1.18 now,
> > does it make sense to update the roadmap this time while we are releasing
> > 1.18? This discussion thread will be focusing on the Flink 2.0 roadmap,
> as
> > you mentioned previously. WDYT?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jing
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Martijn and I would like to initiate a discussion on the Flink roadmap,
> > > which should cover the project's long-term roadmap and the regular
> update
> > > mechanism.
> > >
> > > Xintong has already started a discussion about Flink 2.0 planning. One
> of
> > > the points raised in that discussion is that we should have a
> high-level
> > > discussion of the roadmap to present where the project is heading
> (which
> > > doesn't necessarily need to block the Flink 2.0 planning). Moreover,
> the
> > > roadmap on the Flink website [1] hasn't been updated for half a year,
> and
> > > the last update was for the feature radar for the 1.15 release. It has
> > been
> > > 2 years since the community discussed Flink's overall roadmap.
> > >
> > > I would like to raise two topics for discussion:
> > >
> > > 1. The new roadmap. This should be an updated version of the current
> > > roadmap[1].
> > > 2. A mechanism to regularly discuss and update the roadmap.
> > >
> > > To make the first topic discussion more efficient, Martijn and I
> > volunteer
> > > to summarize the ongoing big things of different components and
> present a
> > > roadmap draft to the community in the next few weeks. This should be a
> > good
> > > starting point for a more detailed discussion.
> > >
> > > Regarding the regular update mechanism, there was a proposal in a
> thread
> > > [2] three years ago to make the release manager responsible for
> updating
> > > the roadmap. However, it appears that this was not documented as a
> > release
> > > management task [3], and the roadmap update wasn't performed for
> releases
> > > 1.16 and 1.17.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, making release managers responsible for keeping the
> > roadmap
> > > up to date is a good idea. Specifically, release managers of release X
> > can
> > > kick off the roadmap update at the beginning of release X, which can
> be a
> > > joint task with collecting a feature list [4]. Additionally, release
> > > managers of release X-1 can help verify and remove the accomplished
> items
> > > from the roadmap and update the feature radar.
> > >
> > > What do you think? Do you have other ideas?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jark & Martijn
> > >
> > > [1]: https://flink.apache.org/roadmap.html
> > > [2]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/o0l3cg6yphxwrww0k7215jgtw3yfoybv
> > > [3]:
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Release+Management
> > > [4]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/1.18+Release
> > >
> >
>

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