Thank you everyone for helping polish the roadmap [1].

I think I have addressed all the comments and we have included all ongoing
parts of Flink.
Please feel free to take a last look. I'm going to prepare the pull request
if there are no more concerns.

Best,
Jark

[1]:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12BDiVKEsY-f7HI3suO_IxwzCmR04QcVqLarXgyJAb7c/edit

On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 at 13:04, Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for taking so long
>
> I've added a section about Flink Disaggregated State Management Evolution
> in the attached doc.
>
> I found some of the contents might be overlapped with the "large-scale
> streaming jobs". So that part might need some changes as well.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> Best
> Yuan
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 12:07 PM Yuan Mei <yuanmei.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry have missed this email and respond a bit late.
> >
> > I will put a draft for the long-term vision for the state as well as
> > large-scale state support into the roadmap.
> >
> > Best
> > Yuan
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 10:34 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jiabao,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your suggestions. I have added them to the "Going Beyond a
> >> SQL Stream/Batch Processing Engine" and "Large-Scale State Jobs"
> sections.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Jark
> >>
> >> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 16:06, Jiabao Sun <jiabao....@xtransfer.cn
> >> .invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Jark and Martijn for driving this.
> >> >
> >> > There are two suggestions about the Table API:
> >> >
> >> > - Add the JSON type to adapt to the no sql database type.
> >> > - Remove changelog normalize operator for upsert stream.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Jiabao
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > 2023年7月13日 下午3:49,Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi all,
> >> > >
> >> > > Sorry for taking so long back here.
> >> > >
> >> > > Martijn and I have drafted the first version of the updated roadmap,
> >> > > including the updated feature radar reflecting the current state of
> >> > > different components.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12BDiVKEsY-f7HI3suO_IxwzCmR04QcVqLarXgyJAb7c/edit
> >> > >
> >> > > Feel free to leave comments in the thread or the document.
> >> > > We may miss mentioning something important, so your help in
> enriching
> >> > > the content is greatly appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > > Jark & Martijn
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 00:50, Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Jark,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Fair enough. Let's do it like you suggested. Thanks!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Best regards,
> >> > >> Jing
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 6:00 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Hi Jing,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> This thread is for discussing the roadmap for versions 1.18, 2.0,
> >> and
> >> > >> even
> >> > >>> more.
> >> > >>> One of the outcomes of this discussion will be an updated version
> of
> >> > the
> >> > >>> current roadmap.
> >> > >>> Let's work together on refining the roadmap in this thread.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Best,
> >> > >>> Jark
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 23:25, Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Hi Jark,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thanks for driving it! For point 2, since we are developing 1.18
> >> now,
> >> > >>>> does it make sense to update the roadmap this time while we are
> >> > >> releasing
> >> > >>>> 1.18? This discussion thread will be focusing on the Flink 2.0
> >> > roadmap,
> >> > >>> as
> >> > >>>> you mentioned previously. WDYT?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Best regards,
> >> > >>>> Jing
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Martijn and I would like to initiate a discussion on the Flink
> >> > >> roadmap,
> >> > >>>>> which should cover the project's long-term roadmap and the
> regular
> >> > >>> update
> >> > >>>>> mechanism.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Xintong has already started a discussion about Flink 2.0
> planning.
> >> > >> One
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>>>> the points raised in that discussion is that we should have a
> >> > >>> high-level
> >> > >>>>> discussion of the roadmap to present where the project is
> heading
> >> > >>> (which
> >> > >>>>> doesn't necessarily need to block the Flink 2.0 planning).
> >> Moreover,
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>>>> roadmap on the Flink website [1] hasn't been updated for half a
> >> year,
> >> > >>> and
> >> > >>>>> the last update was for the feature radar for the 1.15 release.
> It
> >> > >> has
> >> > >>>> been
> >> > >>>>> 2 years since the community discussed Flink's overall roadmap.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> I would like to raise two topics for discussion:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 1. The new roadmap. This should be an updated version of the
> >> current
> >> > >>>>> roadmap[1].
> >> > >>>>> 2. A mechanism to regularly discuss and update the roadmap.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> To make the first topic discussion more efficient, Martijn and I
> >> > >>>> volunteer
> >> > >>>>> to summarize the ongoing big things of different components and
> >> > >>> present a
> >> > >>>>> roadmap draft to the community in the next few weeks. This
> should
> >> be
> >> > >> a
> >> > >>>> good
> >> > >>>>> starting point for a more detailed discussion.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Regarding the regular update mechanism, there was a proposal in
> a
> >> > >>> thread
> >> > >>>>> [2] three years ago to make the release manager responsible for
> >> > >>> updating
> >> > >>>>> the roadmap. However, it appears that this was not documented
> as a
> >> > >>>> release
> >> > >>>>> management task [3], and the roadmap update wasn't performed for
> >> > >>> releases
> >> > >>>>> 1.16 and 1.17.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> In my opinion, making release managers responsible for keeping
> the
> >> > >>>> roadmap
> >> > >>>>> up to date is a good idea. Specifically, release managers of
> >> release
> >> > >> X
> >> > >>>> can
> >> > >>>>> kick off the roadmap update at the beginning of release X, which
> >> can
> >> > >>> be a
> >> > >>>>> joint task with collecting a feature list [4]. Additionally,
> >> release
> >> > >>>>> managers of release X-1 can help verify and remove the
> >> accomplished
> >> > >>> items
> >> > >>>>> from the roadmap and update the feature radar.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> What do you think? Do you have other ideas?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Best,
> >> > >>>>> Jark & Martijn
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> [1]: https://flink.apache.org/roadmap.html
> >> > >>>>> [2]:
> >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/o0l3cg6yphxwrww0k7215jgtw3yfoybv
> >> > >>>>> [3]:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Release+Management
> >> > >>>>> [4]:
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/1.18+Release
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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