I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15710 
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15710>. It seems that creating 
mailing lists is now self service but is restricted to PMC chairs. Since I am 
no longer a PMC chair I can’t access the application. 
https://selfserve.apache.org <https://selfserve.apache.org/>. 

Hari, can you please create [email protected] and update the Jira issue 
when it is completed?

Ralph


> On Dec 19, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Mike Percy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ralph,
> My opinion is that we should move JIRA traffic to [email protected] and keep
> review traffic (Reviewboard, GitHub PRs) on the dev list for now, because
> the code review requests are relatively low volume and they are certainly
> relevant to Flume developers - more so than much of the issue traffic.
> FWIW, the commits already go to commits@.
> 
> We could try that out for a few months, and if automated traffic is still
> interfering with our ability to have email conversations between human
> individuals then we could also split that out into [email protected].
> That's what we do in Apache Kudu but it seems like overkill for a project
> with the volume of pull requests that Flume has right now.
> 
> My 2 cents,
> Mike
> 
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> I’ll give this another day and if there are no objections I will go ahead
>> and create Infra issues to do this.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am proposing that we create a new list for automated messages. I am
>> forwarding it here since it has only gotten replies from Hari and Mike on
>> the dev list. The discussion really belongs on the dev list but you may not
>> be seeing it due to the noise.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Hari Shreedharan <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Message Lists
>>>> Date: December 11, 2017 at 1:41:11 PM MST
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> +1. I agree, we should move the private messages out.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Mike Percy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If necessary due to noise we can take this discussion back to private@
>>>>> for a check-in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Mike. Yours is the only feedback in a month. I am uncomfortable
>>>>> contacting infra to make the changes based on so little input.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Mike Percy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry, I didn't see this message because of all the automated emails!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 from me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently all the messages from Jenkins, Jira and GitHub land in
>> this
>>>>>>>> mailing list. That makes this mailing list very cluttered and it is
>>>>> easy to
>>>>>>>> miss discussions. Other projects use a “notifications” list to
>> accept
>>>>>>>> emails from those sources so the dev list can be left for
>>>>> person-to-person
>>>>>>>> discussions.  I would like to propose that Flume switch to this
>> model.
>>>>>>>> Another alternative would be to have separate lists for each of
>> those
>>>>>>>> sources. My personal viewpoint is simply separating the automated
>>>>> emails is
>>>>>>>> enough but I’d be willing to go along with any plan that moves the
>>>>>>>> automated emails to another list.  I also think that doing this
>> might
>>>>>>>> increase the number of subscribers on the Flume dev list as lots of
>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> don’t like to deal with all the extra email.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All that said, it would be expected that all committers would
>>>>> subscribe to
>>>>>>>> these new lists.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

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