I did manually create it because I noticed the previous ones, I did
not realize those were automatically created in the past.  Deleting
all of those sounds good to me.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:32 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I noticed with 2.0.0, a new release at
> https://github.com/apache/fluo/releases (I think Keith manually
> created that as part of the 2.0.0 post-vote release steps? Perhaps he
> can confirm.)
>
> In the past, all tags automatically got a "release" entry on GitHub.
> However, that is no longer the case. GitHub has now separated out the
> idea of a "release" from a "tag" enough that these aren't
> automatically created anymore, and we don't need to worry about
> updating them with release names and release notes. This feature in
> GitHub is primarily used as a way to make artifacts available for
> download, along with release notes. However, in ASF land, we have our
> website and the ASF-provided CDN for that and do not need this
> feature. I believe GitHub actually made that change to stop
> automatically creating faux "releases" for every tag as a result of
> pressure from the ASF, because these faux "releases" were being
> mistaken as official ASF releases, when they weren't. I can't remember
> the specific mailing list where this was discussed, but maybe one from
> LEGAL or COMDEV.
>
> To make matters worse, the content of these "releases" are not
> actually the same as the official source artifact releases from the
> ASF, that the PMC voted on, at all. They are merely GitHub UI magic to
> download a copy of the git source tree for a specified tag. The tag
> contents can, and often do, differ slightly from the actual official
> releases, and they also don't match our published checksums for
> releases and are not accompanied by the required GPG detached
> signatures. The downloads these link to can even change over time, if
> GitHub changes the way the file is generated from the repo (using a
> different timestamp, or different compression options).
>
> In order to reduce confusion and to avoid misrepresenting these as ASF
> releases when they are not, we should not be using this GitHub feature
> at all, and all these "releases", which are not actually ASF releases
> at all, should be deleted. This will not delete the tag, though. The
> tags will remain... and users can also append .zip or .tar.gz to a
> commit hash URL on GitHub to download a copy of the repo contents at
> that commit, without us using this, if they want to.
>
> For comparison, note that Apache Accumulo does not have any GitHub
> "releases" at https://github.com/apache/accumulo/releases, in spite of
> having many tags at https://github.com/apache/accumulo/tags
> Similarly, long-running projects like Hadoop and HTTPD do not do this
> either (https://github.com/apache/hadoop/releases,
> https://github.com/apache/httpd/releases). I did see that Maven does
> do this (https://github.com/apache/maven/releases), and I'm not sure
> their reasons, but for the technical/release policy/user experience
> reasons above, I think it's a really bad idea.
>
> If creating these "releases" are documented anywhere in our developer
> docs, we should update that documentation to correct that.
>
> Christopher

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