David Crossley wrote: > David Crossley wrote: >> Ross Gardler wrote: >> > David Crossley wrote: >> > >Ross Gardler wrote: >> > >>Brian M Dube wrote: >> > >>>David Crossley wrote: >> > >>>>The dependencies on the main facilities (e.g. WordPress and MySql) >> > >>>>seem okay to me. I expect that they would be treated as >> > >>>>system requirements, i.e. there is no use for the plugin if >> > >>>>there is no server available to connect to and extract content from. >> > >>>(Snip) >> > >>> >> > >>>>Some of them (e.g. ehcache) are already in forrest core lib >> > >>>>but need to to updated. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>If Forrest followed our usual technique of re-distributing >> > >>>>the supporting jars as a convenience, then definitely there >> > >>>>are some in that list that cannot be re-distributed: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>e.g. hibernate - See 150 hits for that word on legal-discuss@ >> > >>>>especially LEGAL-7 (and its linked issues) and the responses >> > >>>>to that and to LEGAL-9. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>e.g. mysql-connector-java - I expect that there would be >> > >>>>similar issues. Is there no suitably licensed alternative? >> > >>>I haven't found one. I don't have the energy to make the plugin work >> > >>>without Hibernate and the MySQL driver. I'm happy to make the code >> > >>>available elsewhere, but this is a blocker to host it here. Note I >> > >>>have not contacted legal-discuss. The time and energy for that is >> > >>>lacking, too. >> > >>If there is no way of getting into Forrest ... >> > > >> > >We don't know that yet. Brian is not the only person >> > >in this community. It is a pity that no-one can make >> > >the effort to follow up on such legal aspects. >> > >> > Peronslly I don't need to follow up. There is GPL code - that's the end >> > of the story for the ASF. I too have looked for alternatives in the past >> > - they don't (to my knowedge exist) and I've wasted much time on this in >> > the past. >> > >> > I'm offering a solution. If others want to follow up on the legal front >> > fine - for me it is a dead end so lets get the code where it can be used. >> >> I am not referring to finding a replacement. I mean that >> our "legal-discuss" list is not a boogey monster. They >> want to treat everything on a case-by-case basis. >> >> No-one has yet even approached them on this matter. >> >> See Henri's answer in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-8 > > The way that i see it is that is it up to our PMC. > > It is an optional plugin. If it was the core of > Forrest then things would be very different. > > Sure we cannot distribute those jars, but we can choose > to say to the user: You need to download xxx.jar and > add it to your lib directory. > > If that approach is acceptable to this PMC then > so be it.
I'm not a PMC member but this story remined me of [1]. You and legal-discuss folks know much more about such issues. -Sina [1] http://clisp.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/clisp/clisp/doc/Why-CLISP-is-under-GPL > > Someone needs to clarify that with legal-discuss. >
