On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:16 AM, David Crossley <cross...@apache.org> wrote:
> We do have a process sorted out for releasing of Forrest core.
> [1] How to release Forrest
> http://forrest.apache.org/procedures/release/How_to_release.html
>
> I reckon that it meets the ASF requirements. Please see
> this email where i have before tried to ensure that we do:
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/kwecoaue7p4qcy2v
> To: forrest-dev
> Re: Clarification on the release requirements
>
> Unfortunately the links are broken in that display,
> so i tracked them down again.
>
> Here are a couple of places where Roy set out some
> principles/policy/reasons-for-doing-stuff ...
> [3] http://markmail.org/message/3odlybipss4wnczl
> [4] http://markmail.org/message/njray5dbazwcdcts
>
> I reckon that it would be worth our while to review
> that discussion.
>
> There is other background material at
> [5] http://www.apache.org/dev/#releases
> [6] http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html
>
> With those principles in mind, we need to attend to our
> release process for our plugins.
>
> We don't actually yet have a process.
>
> Do "find in page" for "plugin" at [1] to see the steps.
> You will reach a point where our doc says fixme
> and refers to a draft document at
> [7] $FORREST_HOME/plugins/RELEASE_PROCESS.txt
> There are some other notes at
> [8] http://forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/howto/howto-buildPlugin.html
>
> We do have tools for doing "deploy" of plugins, i.e.
> putting an updated version on the server.
>
> As described in [6] Releases FAQ,
> "
> What Is A Release?
> Releases are, by definition, anything that is published beyond the group that 
> owns it. In our case, that means any publication outside the group of people 
> on the product dev list. If the general public is being instructed to 
> download a package, then that package has been released. Each PMC must obey 
> the ASF requirements on approving any release. How you label the package is a 
> secondary issue, described below.
> "
>
> It should be easy. For each plugin, the proposer puts a package
> at their apache.org space. We each download, install, review,
> and then vote. Then use the "release" Ant target rather than
> the "deploy" target.
>
> However, we have another issue.
>
> We have been providing that software via our website.
> If i understand correctly then we should be doing
> that from w.a.o/dist/forrest/
>
> See some discussion at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1068
>
> Perhaps we should at least solve the "release process" issue now,
> and leave the deployment issue until post 0.9 release.

The "release process" issue?  relative to plugins I assume?  The draft
release doc in the plugins directory suggests that its possible to
release plugins independent of the core but couldn't we, for now, just
as well continue to do what we do and release the plugins with the
core?  In other words, it seems to me we're meeting Roy's intent
fairly well by releasing the whole bundle together - formal process,
signed, etc.

I guess, what I'm wondering is... can we punt on plugin releases, move
dispatcher to /plugins and just vote on the whole bundle as normal?
Or, do you see something that needs addressing now, before a 0.9
release?  Sorry, you were probably hoping for answers not questions:)

--tim