Btw, I'm sure a comparison of capabilities with Ignite will come up at
some point. So here's what
they do in this department (which I personally find really cool):
   http://apacheignite.gridgain.org/v1.0/docs/zero-deployment

Thanks,
Roman.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Anthony Baker <aba...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Hmmm, I agree with Udo.  I’d like to push a new version of my application 
> with a single idempotent command.  The server should be smart enough to 
> figure out what's in my bundle and understand how to deploy it including any 
> dependencies (because who writes dependency-free code?).
>
> I do want some lifecycle hooks to alloc/free resources.  This seems 
> conceptually similar to the “war” model which is pretty familiar to most Java 
> devs.
>
> Anthony
>
>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Udo Kohlmeyer <ukohlme...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>> In some ways that is a great idea.... but sometimes too explicit... Do we 
>> expect them to have fine grained jars?
>> Also how do we handle dependencies.... as a single util class might be used 
>> by both a cache-listener and a partition listener... is the expectation that 
>> we update the dependent util class for one but not the other....
>>
>> It's a very grey area....
>>
>> On 1/6/17 11:19, John Blum wrote:
>>> How about...
>>>
>>> * deploy function
>>> * deploy cache-listener
>>> * deploy cache-loader
>>> * deploy cache-loader
>>> * deploy resource (jar, xml, properties, etc)
>>> * etc.
>>>
>>> Might as was make it explicit.  For instance, I may have a JAR file I just
>>> deployed (uploaded) that contains Functions, Listeners, Loaders, Writers,
>>> etc but I only want to deploy functions.
>>>
>>> Having 1 uber "deploy" command with many options gets cumbersome.
>>>
>>> It is a simple matter to introduce multiple command but have those commands
>>> share similar logic.  This would also enable different workflows for
>>> different commands in a more non-convoluted, maintainable way.
>>>
>>> These could be matched with corresponding `undeploy` commands.
>>>
>>> Food for thought,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Kirk Lund <kl...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With appropriate constraints, a copy file type command could be secure.
>>>>
>>>> 1) don't use Apache Geode without security AND make the command require
>>>> authorization permissions
>>>> 2) limit the target directory to a directory under the working directory of
>>>> the remote server
>>>> 3) rename it to "deploy resource" so people don't expect it to copy to an
>>>> arbitrary target directory on the remote machine
>>>>
>>>> Back to "deploy jar":
>>>>
>>>> The deploy command is only for deploying Apache Geode callbacks (Function,
>>>> CacheListener, etc). "deploy resource" such Spring jars or Spring xml files
>>>> or anything similar does not overlap with "deploy jar". There is continued
>>>> confusion over what "deploy jar" is or does. I propose we rename it to
>>>> "deploy functions" or "deploy callbacks" or something along those lines to
>>>> end the confusion.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Michael Stolz <mst...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So maybe a generic copy command is too insecure, I agree.
>>>>> What we should do is think about exactly what files we think we are
>>>> trying
>>>>> to deploy.
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. I believe that there is a need to deploy dependency jars into the
>>>>>    system classpath.
>>>>>    2. I believe that there is also a desire to be able to deploy Spring
>>>>>    Data Geode xml configuration files.
>>>>>    3. There is also an issue with attempting to deploy Spring Data Geode
>>>>>    functions that we should try to work out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything else that anyone is aware of?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike Stolz
>>>>> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
>>>>> Mobile: 631-835-4771
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Jacob Barrett <jbarr...@pivotal.io>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree with Anthony. A copy command would either duplicate what deploy
>>>>> does
>>>>>> by only putting files within as specific location in the server's
>>>>> directory
>>>>>> or creating a security nightmare if allowed to write anywhere on the
>>>>> host.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:56 AM Anthony Baker <aba...@pivotal.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I think there are lots of great OS orchestration and automation
>>>> tools.
>>>>>>> I’m not sure I understand the need for `gfsh cp`.  If I could easily
>>>>> grab
>>>>>>> the member hostnames from `gfsh list members` and pipe them into
>>>> mpssh
>>>>>> (for
>>>>>>> example) that would do the job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I *do* like the idea of an improved `gfsh deploy` that supports hot
>>>>>> deploy
>>>>>>> and reconfiguration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:38 AM, Swapnil Bawaskar <sbawas...@pivotal.io
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some application may need to copy files to all the servers. These
>>>>> files
>>>>>>>> could either be data files or they could be configuration files
>>>>> needed
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> the application or they could be jar files (that don't have
>>>> functions
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> have say, spring data geode jar files) that need to be on the
>>>>> server's
>>>>>>>> classpath.
>>>>>>>> We could accomplish this by enhancing the current gfsh "deploy"
>>>>> command
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> accept any kind of file and write it to the servers file system OR
>>>>>>> create a
>>>>>>>> new gfsh "copy" command to copy any arbitrary file to the servers.
>>>>>>>> I would personally like to repurpose the deploy command but would
>>>>> like
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> hear the community's opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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