> On Sep 4, 2017, at 4:56 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> So I want to pick back up at least with fault tolerance.  Would anyone be 
> opposed to starting up a repo on it?  I'm thinking of the name "Safeguard" so 
> that it would either be "org.apache.safeguard" or 
> "org.apache.geronimo.safeguard" as group id in maven (xbean uses the former, 
> config the latter).

I have a strong preference for “org.apache.safeguard" over 
“org.apache.geronimo.safeguard”.  We have 14 years of Google search results to 
work against and a few million developers brains that say Geronimo is an app 
server.  Every time we put “Geronimo” on something, it’s a strike against 
Hammok, Meecrowave and TomEE and any MP implementation that may want to use it 
but not confuse the world that “Geronimo is back".

If we do want a parent package, I repeat we can use org.apache.xbean if we 
like.  It was meant for common reusable stuff.  We do not need to shackle 
ourselves with any self-imposed restrictions like “xbean needs to be all 
released at once”.  That was only done out of laziness.


-David







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