Up John? Are you ok to change your vote to a -0 and not veto the release
since we are good legally but just didnt respect a good practise?

If not I can rerun the release tomorrow and add another not standard file
to replace our notice mention but i dont see any reason to require another
vote for that for now.


Le 15 mars 2018 07:11, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> @John: is it ok to keep it for this release and have another discuss
> thread about it for you - legally we are ok anyway?
>
>
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> 2018-03-15 1:17 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>
>> I see. Note that the updated guideline does say 'need not' and not 'MUST
>> NOT'.
>> Yes we should probably remove it. But no, it's not a show stopper imo.
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> > Am 15.03.2018 um 01:01 schrieb John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:54 PM John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:43 PM Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>> wrote:
>> > +1 it's not incorrect. Please read the BSD3c license
>> >
>> > > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>> > >    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>> > >
>> > > 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>> > >    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
>> > >   documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>> >
>> > It needs noticing. That's why we put it into NOTICE ;)
>> >
>> > +1 from me.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry but you're incorrect.  The copyright claim is already present by
>> copying in their license file.
>> >
>> > BTW here's a legal ticket explain what should and should not go into a
>> notice file
>> >
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262
>> >
>> > There's an explicit call out to MIT and BSD being excluded.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > LieGrue,
>> > strub
>> >
>> >
>> > > Am 14.03.2018 um 19:00 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Le 14 mars 2018 18:51, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> a
>> écrit :
>> > > ASF policy is that NOTICE files are present when the consumed product
>> includes a NOTICE file.  In BSD-3-Clause products, the copyright statement
>> (including download link) is in the license file.  So its enough to list it
>> there.
>> > >
>> > > My vote: -1 due to incorrect NOTICE file.
>> > >
>> > > It is not incorrect since the license is particular it must be in
>> notice to be able to put all parts together on user side. If you dont you
>> let users do again this job which is insanely bad.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:46 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Le 14 mars 2018 18:30, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> a
>> écrit :
>> > > Why does the NOTICE file in the resulting JAR (for the ASM shaded
>> dependency) include
>> > >
>> > > This product includes software developed at
>> > > OW2 Consortium (http://asm.ow2.org/)
>> > >
>> > > There is no notice file associated with ASM 6.1, so we should not
>> need to declare any notice.
>> > >
>> > > Well it is not an asf licensed software nor an asf project so it is
>> no bad IMHO to list it here. Also their website look a bit outdated so I
>> was not sure it was that ok to completely drop it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:54 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > yep, as written ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > > @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>> > >
>> > > 2018-03-14 17:51 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>:
>> > > Romain,
>> > >
>> > > as far as I have seen, there is only the ASM upgrade, right?
>> > >
>> > > Le mer. 14 mars 2018 à 17:49, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > > Hi!
>> > >
>> > > Please VOTE for the release of Apache XBean-4.7.
>> > >
>> > > Here is the staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/
>> content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049
>> > > The source distribution can be found here:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapache
>> geronimo-1049/org/apache/xbean/xbean/4.7/xbean-4.7-source-release.zip
>> > > sha1 is ea25f3fda5d9abea891a62abf738d1024f289dd5
>> > >
>> > > Change is only about upgrade asm to 6.1 (java 10).
>> > >
>> > > [+1] ship it
>> > > [+0] meh, don’t care
>> > > [-1] nope, stop because ${reason}
>> > >
>> > > The VOTE is open for 72h.
>> > >
>> > > Here is my +1.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > > @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
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