Fair enough for me.

About my e-mail, it's just a question of wording: just don't use "veto" ;)

Regards
JB

On 19/03/2018 07:43, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
I know but releasing with a -1 is irrespect for the community and I dont want to pass in force for a notice. Will recreate it later today.

Is it ok to put a readme.adoc for you in metainf?


Le 19 mars 2018 07:27, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> a écrit :

    Hi,

    there's no veto for release, even with a -1. So, if you are fine
    with this and address in next release, we can proceed.

    Regards
    JB

    On 18/03/2018 21:39, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:

        Up John? Are you ok to change your vote to a -0 and not veto the
        release since we are good legally but just didnt respect a good
        practise?

        If not I can rerun the release tomorrow and add another not
        standard file to replace our notice mention but i dont see any
        reason to require another vote for that for now.


        Le 15 mars 2018 07:11, "Romain Manni-Bucau"
        <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>> a
        écrit :

             @John: is it ok to keep it for this release and have
        another discuss
             thread about it for you - legally we are ok anyway?


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             2018-03-15 1:17 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de
        <mailto:strub...@yahoo.de>
             <mailto:strub...@yahoo.de <mailto:strub...@yahoo.de>>>:

                 I see. Note that the updated guideline does say 'need
        not' and
                 not 'MUST NOT'.
                 Yes we should probably remove it. But no, it's not a show
                 stopper imo.

                 LieGrue,
                 strub

                  > Am 15.03.2018 um 01:01 schrieb John D. Ament
                 <johndam...@apache.org <mailto:johndam...@apache.org>
        <mailto:johndam...@apache.org <mailto:johndam...@apache.org>>>:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:54 PM John D. Ament
                 <john.d.am...@gmail.com <mailto:john.d.am...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:john.d.am...@gmail.com <mailto:john.d.am...@gmail.com>>>
        wrote:
                  > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:43 PM Mark Struberg
                 <strub...@yahoo.de <mailto:strub...@yahoo.de>
        <mailto:strub...@yahoo.de <mailto:strub...@yahoo.de>>> wrote:
                  > +1 it's not incorrect. Please read the BSD3c license
                  >
                  > > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the
        above
                 copyright
                  > >    notice, this list of conditions and the following
                 disclaimer.
                  > >
                  > > 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce
        the above
                 copyright
                  > >    notice, this list of conditions and the following
                 disclaimer in the
                  > >   documentation and/or other materials provided
        with the
                 distribution.
                  >
                  > It needs noticing. That's why we put it into NOTICE ;)
                  >
                  > +1 from me.
                  >
                  >
                  > Sorry but you're incorrect.  The copyright claim is
        already
                 present by copying in their license file.
                  >
                  > BTW here's a legal ticket explain what should and
        should not
                 go into a notice file
                  >
                  > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262
        <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262>
                 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262
        <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262>>
                  >
                  > There's an explicit call out to MIT and BSD being
        excluded.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > LieGrue,
                  > strub
                  >
                  >
                  > > Am 14.03.2018 um 19:00 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau
                 <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>>:
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Le 14 mars 2018 18:51, "John D. Ament"
                 <johndam...@apache.org <mailto:johndam...@apache.org>
        <mailto:johndam...@apache.org <mailto:johndam...@apache.org>>> a
        écrit :
                  > > ASF policy is that NOTICE files are present when the
                 consumed product includes a NOTICE file.  In BSD-3-Clause
                 products, the copyright statement (including download
        link) is
                 in the license file.  So its enough to list it there.
                  > >
                  > > My vote: -1 due to incorrect NOTICE file.
                  > >
                  > > It is not incorrect since the license is
        particular it must
                 be in notice to be able to put all parts together on
        user side.
                 If you dont you let users do again this job which is
        insanely bad.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:46 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
                 <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>>
        wrote:
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Le 14 mars 2018 18:30, "John D. Ament"
                 <johndam...@apache.org <mailto:johndam...@apache.org>
        <mailto:johndam...@apache.org <mailto:johndam...@apache.org>>> a
        écrit :
                  > > Why does the NOTICE file in the resulting JAR (for
        the ASM
                 shaded dependency) include
                  > >
                  > > This product includes software developed at
                  > > OW2 Consortium (http://asm.ow2.org/)
                  > >
                  > > There is no notice file associated with ASM 6.1, so we
                 should not need to declare any notice.
                  > >
                  > > Well it is not an asf licensed software nor an asf
        project
                 so it is no bad IMHO to list it here. Also their
        website look a
                 bit outdated so I was not sure it was that ok to
        completely drop it.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:54 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
                 <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>>
        wrote:
                  > > yep, as written ;)
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Romain Manni-Bucau
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                  > >
                  > > 2018-03-14 17:51 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
                 <jeano...@gmail.com <mailto:jeano...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:jeano...@gmail.com <mailto:jeano...@gmail.com>>>:
                  > > Romain,
                  > >
                  > > as far as I have seen, there is only the ASM
        upgrade, right?
                  > >
                  > > Le mer. 14 mars 2018 à 17:49, Romain Manni-Bucau
                 <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>> a
        écrit :
                  > > Hi!
                  > >
                  > > Please VOTE for the release of Apache XBean-4.7.
                  > >
                  > > Here is the staging repo:
        
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049
        
<https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049>
<https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049
        
<https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049>>
                  > > The source distribution can be found here:
        
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049/org/apache/xbean/xbean/4.7/xbean-4.7-source-release.zip
        
<https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049/org/apache/xbean/xbean/4.7/xbean-4.7-source-release.zip>
<https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049/org/apache/xbean/xbean/4.7/xbean-4.7-source-release.zip
        
<https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049/org/apache/xbean/xbean/4.7/xbean-4.7-source-release.zip>>
                  > > sha1 is ea25f3fda5d9abea891a62abf738d1024f289dd5
                  > >
                  > > Change is only about upgrade asm to 6.1 (java 10).
                  > >
                  > > [+1] ship it
                  > > [+0] meh, don’t care
                  > > [-1] nope, stop because ${reason}
                  > >
                  > > The VOTE is open for 72h.
                  > >
                  > > Here is my +1.
                  > >
                  > >
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