On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:39 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Up John? Are you ok to change your vote to a -0 and not veto the release
> since we are good legally but just didnt respect a good practise?
>

-1's on releases are never vetos.  Very surprised you don't know this.  You
should review [1] and [2] esp since you're a new chair.

[1]: http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval
[2]: https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html



>
> If not I can rerun the release tomorrow and add another not standard file
> to replace our notice mention but i dont see any reason to require another
> vote for that for now.
>
>
> Le 15 mars 2018 07:11, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> @John: is it ok to keep it for this release and have another discuss
>> thread about it for you - legally we are ok anyway?
>>
>>
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>> 2018-03-15 1:17 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>>
>>> I see. Note that the updated guideline does say 'need not' and not 'MUST
>>> NOT'.
>>> Yes we should probably remove it. But no, it's not a show stopper imo.
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>> > Am 15.03.2018 um 01:01 schrieb John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:54 PM John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:43 PM Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> > +1 it's not incorrect. Please read the BSD3c license
>>> >
>>> > > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>>> > >    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>>> > >    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
>>> the
>>> > >   documentation and/or other materials provided with the
>>> distribution.
>>> >
>>> > It needs noticing. That's why we put it into NOTICE ;)
>>> >
>>> > +1 from me.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sorry but you're incorrect.  The copyright claim is already present by
>>> copying in their license file.
>>> >
>>> > BTW here's a legal ticket explain what should and should not go into a
>>> notice file
>>> >
>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262
>>> >
>>> > There's an explicit call out to MIT and BSD being excluded.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > LieGrue,
>>> > strub
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Am 14.03.2018 um 19:00 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Le 14 mars 2018 18:51, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> a
>>> écrit :
>>> > > ASF policy is that NOTICE files are present when the consumed
>>> product includes a NOTICE file.  In BSD-3-Clause products, the copyright
>>> statement (including download link) is in the license file.  So its enough
>>> to list it there.
>>> > >
>>> > > My vote: -1 due to incorrect NOTICE file.
>>> > >
>>> > > It is not incorrect since the license is particular it must be in
>>> notice to be able to put all parts together on user side. If you dont you
>>> let users do again this job which is insanely bad.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:46 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Le 14 mars 2018 18:30, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> a
>>> écrit :
>>> > > Why does the NOTICE file in the resulting JAR (for the ASM shaded
>>> dependency) include
>>> > >
>>> > > This product includes software developed at
>>> > > OW2 Consortium (http://asm.ow2.org/)
>>> > >
>>> > > There is no notice file associated with ASM 6.1, so we should not
>>> need to declare any notice.
>>> > >
>>> > > Well it is not an asf licensed software nor an asf project so it is
>>> no bad IMHO to list it here. Also their website look a bit outdated so I
>>> was not sure it was that ok to completely drop it.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:54 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > yep, as written ;)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>> > >
>>> > > 2018-03-14 17:51 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>:
>>> > > Romain,
>>> > >
>>> > > as far as I have seen, there is only the ASM upgrade, right?
>>> > >
>>> > > Le mer. 14 mars 2018 à 17:49, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> > > Hi!
>>> > >
>>> > > Please VOTE for the release of Apache XBean-4.7.
>>> > >
>>> > > Here is the staging repo:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049
>>> > > The source distribution can be found here:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachegeronimo-1049/org/apache/xbean/xbean/4.7/xbean-4.7-source-release.zip
>>> > > sha1 is ea25f3fda5d9abea891a62abf738d1024f289dd5
>>> > >
>>> > > Change is only about upgrade asm to 6.1 (java 10).
>>> > >
>>> > > [+1] ship it
>>> > > [+0] meh, don’t care
>>> > > [-1] nope, stop because ${reason}
>>> > >
>>> > > The VOTE is open for 72h.
>>> > >
>>> > > Here is my +1.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> > > @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
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