Any comments from other PMCs?

We need a full discussion before we kick off our next milestone for apache
griffin.

Thanks,
William


On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:55 PM john@apache <[email protected]> wrote:

> Could not agree more with Eugene's summary.
>
> Just had a quick meeting with William, talking his arch draft. Now we
> have a clarified and clear defined goal for the new arch.
>
> William and I all agree that it would be great to have a simple and
> clearly defined goal to go with.
>
> ----
>
> # What Griffin should focus
>
> Griffin is a generic framework to enable user to measure and monitor
> the data quality in an easy and extensive manner.
>
> # Old Griffin architecture problems
>
> What's the painpoints we are facing in the current edition of Griffin
> from the architectural perspective?
>
> 1. To have an abstraction layer of query engine
> The current spark implementation limited Griffin's adoption, since a
> company could use other query engine in company level. It's too heavy
> to set up a spark environment to run Griffin.
>
> 2. To support a common data quality workflow: measure-monitor-alert
> In most of real scenarios, measuring is not the goal, but
> measure-monitor-alert workflow.
> User should be able to define an use case, including:
>     1. to measure a dq metrics
>     2. to define the monitoring trigger
>     3. to define the alerting action
>     4. to integrate the 3-steps into a single job/UoW (by scheduler)
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM Eugene Law <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Appreciate William post of new architecture. John & Grant had raised good
> > comments as well.
> >
> > As an evolving data quality product, we need to catch up to the rolling
> > forward of the big data ecosystem.  I think there are points we can
> > consider more.
> >
> > Firstly, how to absorb positive/negative experience from existent jira
> bugs
> > and make it apply in new architecture.
> > Secondly, how to highlight the improvement from the old one to the new
> > architecture and convince Grffin's users that the change will bring more
> > gains.
> > Thirdly, we should consider making rule-base architecture evolving as a
> > long-term goal, finally becoming a de facto standard in the vertical
> area.
> >
> > Thx
> > Eugene
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 4:00 PM William Guo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > just created the GIP pages and moved this proposal under GIP,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GRIFFIN/Rule+Based+Architecture+Proposal
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > William
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 3:11 PM William Guo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have drafted next generation griffin architecture.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GRIFFIN/Rule+Based+Architecture+Proposal
> > > >
> > > > Let's brainstorm it .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 10:28 AM john@apache <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Great to hear that we will have something new in the plan.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is so happy to me to see that there will be new arch draft in 2
> days.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the same time, I would like to raise up some of my ideas/comments
> > > >> related to the new arch before we decided to go
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>   1.  What’s the good part and bad part for the existing arch? I
> agree
> > > >> that the current arch which were defined 4 years ago is not good
> > > >> enough for the ongoing requirement. So I would like to recommend
> that
> > > >> compile a list of expected change from arch level, so we can start
> > > >> from there, to discuss the priority and scope.
> > > >>   2.  We might need to define/re-define high level principles
> helping
> > > >> us clarify the vision, if it is not clear enough now. We need some
> > > >> brain storming to collect more ideas about what griffin should do
> and
> > > >> what should not.
> > > >>   3.  We need to check with what is the main pain points of current
> > > >> user, and try to solve them in the arch level. I will go through all
> > > >> the jira issues and classify them to several categories. And I will
> > > >> keep update the status.
> > > >>
> > > >> Please let me know your comments.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 12:53 AM Grant <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi Willem,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am Grant Guo, PMC member of the Griffin project, apache ID:
> xuexu
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Since last December, William, me, and other PMC members have been
> > > >> > discussing the feasibility of the rule-based solution, which could
> > > bring
> > > >> > Griffin to a new level in terms of usability, extensibility, etc.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > A new architectural proposal will be posted soon.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 6:08 PM Willem Jiang <
> [email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > There has been no development activity on this project for more
> > > than 5
> > > >> > > months. The PMC has failed to submit several board reports.
> Without
> > > a
> > > >> > > community or anyone working on the project, there is no project.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > If any of the PMC members are still active, please indicate so
> by
> > > >> > > responding to this email.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thank you, all!  I hope everyone is safe and healthy.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Willem Jiang
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
>

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