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From: Tushar Patil <tushar.opensourc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ROLL CALL] Status of this project
To: William Guo <gu...@apache.org>


Hi William,

I will be happy to contribute in this new architecture development. How can
I pickup development task for the same ?

Regards,
Tushar

> On 09-Aug-2022, at 5:54 PM, William Guo <gu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> This is our new arch diagram
>
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GRIFFIN/Rule+Based+Architecture+Proposal
>
> We will build milestones based on this proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> William
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 8:22 PM William Guo <gu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> test for new subscriber, please ignore this.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> William
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:11 PM William Guo <gu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> hi All,
>>>
>>> Since our pmcs have reached an agreement, we will draft our feature
>>> roadmap pretty soon.
>>>
>>> @Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>>> We will keep you posted.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> William
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 5:30 PM Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like there is a new generation of Griffin.
>>>> @William would you wrap up a roadmap for it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Willem
>>>>
>>>> On 2022/08/06 08:16:49 William Guo wrote:
>>>>> Any comments from other PMCs?
>>>>>
>>>>> We need a full discussion before we kick off our next milestone for
>>>> apache
>>>>> griffin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> William
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:55 PM john@apache <john...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could not agree more with Eugene's summary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just had a quick meeting with William, talking his arch draft. Now we
>>>>>> have a clarified and clear defined goal for the new arch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William and I all agree that it would be great to have a simple and
>>>>>> clearly defined goal to go with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # What Griffin should focus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Griffin is a generic framework to enable user to measure and monitor
>>>>>> the data quality in an easy and extensive manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Old Griffin architecture problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the painpoints we are facing in the current edition of Griffin
>>>>>> from the architectural perspective?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. To have an abstraction layer of query engine
>>>>>> The current spark implementation limited Griffin's adoption, since a
>>>>>> company could use other query engine in company level. It's too heavy
>>>>>> to set up a spark environment to run Griffin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. To support a common data quality workflow: measure-monitor-alert
>>>>>> In most of real scenarios, measuring is not the goal, but
>>>>>> measure-monitor-alert workflow.
>>>>>> User should be able to define an use case, including:
>>>>>>    1. to measure a dq metrics
>>>>>>    2. to define the monitoring trigger
>>>>>>    3. to define the alerting action
>>>>>>    4. to integrate the 3-steps into a single job/UoW (by scheduler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM Eugene Law <liu...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Appreciate William post of new architecture. John & Grant had
>>>> raised good
>>>>>>> comments as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an evolving data quality product, we need to catch up to the
>>>> rolling
>>>>>>> forward of the big data ecosystem.  I think there are points we can
>>>>>>> consider more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Firstly, how to absorb positive/negative experience from existent
>>>> jira
>>>>>> bugs
>>>>>>> and make it apply in new architecture.
>>>>>>> Secondly, how to highlight the improvement from the old one to the
>>>> new
>>>>>>> architecture and convince Grffin's users that the change will
>>>> bring more
>>>>>>> gains.
>>>>>>> Thirdly, we should consider making rule-base architecture evolving
>>>> as a
>>>>>>> long-term goal, finally becoming a de facto standard in the
>>>> vertical
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thx
>>>>>>> Eugene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 4:00 PM William Guo <gu...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just created the GIP pages and moved this proposal under GIP,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GRIFFIN/Rule+Based+Architecture+Proposal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 3:11 PM William Guo <gu...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have drafted next generation griffin architecture.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GRIFFIN/Rule+Based+Architecture+Proposal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's brainstorm it .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 10:28 AM john@apache <
>>>> john...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great to hear that we will have something new in the plan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is so happy to me to see that there will be new arch draft
>>>> in 2
>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At the same time, I would like to raise up some of my
>>>> ideas/comments
>>>>>>>>>> related to the new arch before we decided to go
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  1.  What’s the good part and bad part for the existing
>>>> arch? I
>>>>>> agree
>>>>>>>>>> that the current arch which were defined 4 years ago is not
>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>> enough for the ongoing requirement. So I would like to
>>>> recommend
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> compile a list of expected change from arch level, so we can
>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> from there, to discuss the priority and scope.
>>>>>>>>>>  2.  We might need to define/re-define high level principles
>>>>>> helping
>>>>>>>>>> us clarify the vision, if it is not clear enough now. We need
>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> brain storming to collect more ideas about what griffin
>>>> should do
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> what should not.
>>>>>>>>>>  3.  We need to check with what is the main pain points of
>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>> user, and try to solve them in the arch level. I will go
>>>> through all
>>>>>>>>>> the jira issues and classify them to several categories. And
>>>> I will
>>>>>>>>>> keep update the status.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know your comments.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 12:53 AM Grant <grant.xu...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Willem,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am Grant Guo, PMC member of the Griffin project, apache
>>>> ID:
>>>>>> xuexu
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since last December, William, me, and other PMC members
>>>> have been
>>>>>>>>>>> discussing the feasibility of the rule-based solution,
>>>> which could
>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>> Griffin to a new level in terms of usability,
>>>> extensibility, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A new architectural proposal will be posted soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 6:08 PM Willem Jiang <
>>>>>> willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There has been no development activity on this project
>>>> for more
>>>>>>>> than 5
>>>>>>>>>>>> months. The PMC has failed to submit several board
>>>> reports.
>>>>>> Without
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> community or anyone working on the project, there is no
>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If any of the PMC members are still active, please
>>>> indicate so
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> responding to this email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, all!  I hope everyone is safe and healthy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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