On 14 March 2011 20:26, johann Sorel <sorel.joh...@inbox.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I know I am not a contributor to harmony, yet if my opinion can help. > (My proposition was here : > http://harmony.markmail.org/search/?q=sorel#query:sorel%20from%3A%22johann%20Sorel%22+page:1+mid:bzifm5jshpviyyzz+state:results > ) > > So far, there are only two JVM remaining (if we exclude Google Dalvik not > really a jvm). > Oracle JDK and OpenJDK ('Oracle JDK-Express' as we can start hearing in > discussions). >
Neither of those are JVMs and both (if you believe Oracle) are largely the same thing. At least the following JVMs are still active: * HotSpot * GCJ * CACAO * JamVM * JikesRVM and there are probably others. Didn't Harmony also have its own VM? > I didn't have any comments about what the harmony developers think of the > Parrot VM projet. Personaly I joined there IRC channel several times to learn > how to build up my own language and they are quite friendly with already a > big/huge community. I truly think harmony could see a new future in this > direction. Someone reminded me that harmony must have some support from > companies to live on. Perhaps there is a way to find some financial support > by proposing to merge harmony and parrot. the Java developers and companies > which are frustrated by oracle would surely appreciate to have an exit door > if oracle continues to lock the java ecosystem and the perl/lua/python > ecosystem would be able to use the java libraries. > > Apache foundation host a wide range of libraries, so imagine a second we > could run a batch to recompile all projects with a different bytecode > community driven by a mix of Apache/Parrot foundations. then deploy > everything using the newly compiled maven. we obtain a fair size number of > libraries, community driven, java language compatible, and an already > existing community. > sounds like a reasonable java/oracle alternative to me :) , what about you ? > > Sure, there is work to do but everything we need is already here. find an > agreement between apache and parrot foundations and merge things. at least > try to have a talk with them, it won't do any harm. > > my 2 cents > > > johann sorel > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: t.p.elli...@gmail.com >> Sent: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:52:17 +0000 >> To: dev@harmony.apache.org >> Subject: Rebooting the Harmony project >> >> As will be obvious to regular readers of this list, the Apache Harmony >> development community has seen a steady reduction in capacity over the >> last few months. >> >> Having a period of reflection and reassessment after the turmoil >> surrounding the JCK licensing issue is natural, and there has been some >> discussion about the project road map for moving forward with a new goal. >> >> However, as a consequence of the current reduction in participation >> there is no longer an active Harmony PMC quorum to oversee the actions >> of the project. It is with great sadness that I'll be stepping down as >> Chair of the PMC. >> >> I feel it is too early to move Harmony to the Attic [1], yet we do need >> to ensure there is proper oversight of the project's activities. We'll >> be looking for a new Chair amongst the experienced Apache folks, and >> have been discussing moving to a level of oversight/guidance by inviting >> Incubator [2] mentors to join in our discussions. >> >> The intention of these actions is to provide the time and space for >> Harmony developers to decide where to contribute, and how to make best >> use of the code we have all worked so hard on to date. As always, >> comments, questions, and suggestions are most welcome. >> >> [1] http://attic.apache.org/ >> [2] http://incubator.apache.org >> >> Regards, >> Tim > > ____________________________________________________________ > Send your photos by email in seconds... > TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3 > Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks. > -- Andrew :-) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://openjdk.java.net PGP Key: F5862A37 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EA30 D855 D50F 90CD F54D 0698 0713 C3ED F586 2A37
