> I think it'd be useful correcting at least the 'unlikely tos' with
> pointers to committed code.


I would agree.

Trend Micro has offered to the HBase community, for several months now, a 
version of HBase with Secure Hadoop integration and functioning table- and 
column-family ACLs:

    http://github.com/trendmicro/hbase/tree/security

We run a 0.90-ish version of this in our production.

The implementation is implemented as a coprocessor, but requires the 
coprocessor framework and pluggable RPC (and the secure RPC engine) to be 
included into core. So far we have successfully upstreamed the coprocessor 
framework, into 0.92. Inclusion of pluggable RPC (and the secure RPC engine) 
into 0.92 could happen, but my understanding is the PMC consensus is pluggable 
RPC, and the Maven build refactoring necessary, would delay the release 
unacceptably. So this has been "accepted" in principle for 0.94. I put 
'accepted' in quotes because I can't say there is any commitment to do this.


I think we can respond that a secure HBase would be a reality if our 
contributions are accepted in full. It would be a stronger response if the 
immediate next release (almost ready) were to have fully functioning security 
features.

On the other hand, I think the Accumulo proposal is not inaccurate if our 
contributions will not be accepted for some reason.

So we should have this discussion, before responding.


> Code overlap, if any, can be addressed when the code drop happens.


I for one am eagerly awaiting the code. Only after this will there be enough 
information on hand to address some of the questions we have.


Best regards,


        - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via 
Tom White)


>________________________________
>From: Stack <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Accumulo, another BigTable clone, has shown up on 
>Apache Incubator as a proposal
>
>On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Bernd Fondermann
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>> So, would the ASF allow incubation of a web server product, for
>>> example nginx (which is a direct httpd competitor)?
>>
>> Yes, why not?
>> You are assuming:
>> - competition is bad
>> - community is impartibel
>>
>
>Can we move the 'competition is good', etc. discussion to another
>thread preferably off the dev list.
>
>I'd suggest we refocus this thread on how to respond to the Accumulo
>proposal (or whether to respond at all), since thats what we 'know'.
>I think it'd be useful correcting at least the 'unlikely tos' with
>pointers to committed code.
>
>Code overlap, if any, can be addressed when the code drop happens.
>
>St.Ack
>
>
>

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