+1 on adding release notes.  New RC is not required and even my intention
was not to take new RC.  Just a documentation on this would be enough.


Regards
Ram

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Lipcon [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:48 PM
> To: [email protected]; lars hofhansl
> Subject: Re: ANN: The third hbase 0.94.0 release candidate is available
> for download
> 
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:15 AM, lars hofhansl <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > It's default off. I'd say we just say it's an experimental feature in
> the release notes.
> 
> +1 for calling it experimental in notes and docs, and not removing it.
> Replication was in an experimental state for quite some time, too, and
> we didn't rip that out - I think shipping things off-by-default with
> clear labeling is one of the best ways to sand down rough edges.
> 
> >
> >
> > Are you saying we should have another RC?
> > There was other stuff that went into 0.94 after I cut the RC, so that
> would potentially need to stabilize if I cut a new RC now.
> >
> > -- Lars
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ted Yu <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 7:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: ANN: The third hbase 0.94.0 release candidate is
> available for download
> >
> > Thanks for sharing this information, Ramkrishna.
> >
> > Dictionary WAL compression makes replication not functional - see
> details
> > in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-5778
> >
> > I would vote for the removal of Dictionary WAL compression until we
> make it
> > more robust and consuming much less memory.
> >
> > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Ramkrishna.S.Vasudevan <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> One small observation after giving +1 on the RC.
> >> The WAL compression feature causes OOME and causes Full GC.
> >>
> >> The problem is, if we have 1500 regions and I need to create
> >> recovered.edits
> >> for each of the region (I don’t have much data in the regions
> (~300MB)).
> >> Now when I try to build the dictionary there is a Node object
> getting
> >> created.
> >> Each node object occupies 32 bytes.
> >> We have 5 such dictionaries.
> >>
> >> Initially we create indexToNodes array and its size is 32767.
> >>
> >> So now we have 32*5*32767 = ~5MB.
> >>
> >> Now I have 1500 regions.
> >>
> >> So 5MB*1500 = ~7GB.(Excluding actual data).  This seems to a very
> high
> >> initial memory foot print and this never allows me to split the logs
> and I
> >> am not able to make the cluster up at all.
> >>
> >> Our configured heap size was 8GB, tested in 3 node cluster with 5000
> >> regions, very less data( 1GB in hdfs cluster including replication),
> some
> >> small data is spread evenly across all regions.
> >>
> >> The formula is 32(Node object size)*5(No of dictionary)*32767(no of
> node
> >> objects)*noofregions.
> >>
> >> I think this initial memory needs to be documented (documentation
> should do
> >> for now)or has to be fixed with some workarounds.
> >>
> >> So pls give your thoughts on this.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ram
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Ramkrishna.S.Vasudevan
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:48 AM
> >> > To: [email protected]; 'lars hofhansl'
> >> > Subject: RE: ANN: The third hbase 0.94.0 release candidate is
> available
> >> > for download
> >> >
> >> > Hi
> >> > We (it includes the test team here) 0.94 RC and carried out
> various
> >> > operations on it.
> >> > Puts, Scans, and all the restart scenarios (using kill -9 also).
> Even
> >> > the
> >> > encoding stuffs were tested and carried out our basic test
> scenarios.
> >> > Seems
> >> > to work fine.
> >> >
> >> > Did not test rolling restart with 0.92. By this week we may try to
> do
> >> > some
> >> > performance comparison with 0.92.
> >> > Also Lars and I agreed for a point release too.
> >> > So I am +1 on the RC.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Ram
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: lars hofhansl [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:53 PM
> >> > > To: [email protected]
> >> > > Subject: Re: ANN: The third hbase 0.94.0 release candidate is
> >> > available
> >> > > for download
> >> > >
> >> > > OK, I'll change my tactic :)
> >> > >
> >> > > If there are no -1's by Wed, May 16th, I'll release RC4 as
> 0.94.0.
> >> > >
> >> > > -- Lars
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: Stack <[email protected]>
> >> > > To: lars hofhansl <[email protected]>
> >> > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:39 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: ANN: The third hbase 0.94.0 release candidate is
> >> > available
> >> > > for download
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:26 PM, lars hofhansl
> <[email protected]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > Thanks Stack.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So that's two +1 (mine doesn't count I guess). And no -1.
> >> > >
> >> > > Why doesn't yours count?  Usually the RMs does, if they +1 it.
> So,
> >> > > that'd be 3x+1 + a non-binding +1.
> >> > >
> >> > > > I talked to Ram offline, and we'll fix HBase with Hadoop 2.0.0
> in a
> >> > > 0.94 point release.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I would like to see a few more +1's before I declare this the
> >> > > official 0.94.0 release.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > You might be waiting a while (smile).  Fellas seem to be busy...
> >> > >
> >> > > Good on you Lars,
> >> > > St.Ack
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Todd Lipcon
> Software Engineer, Cloudera

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