> On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:51 +0100, Michael Osipov wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:42 +0100, Michael Osipov wrote:
> > > > Am 2015-11-22 um 20:11 schrieb Oleg Kalnichevski:
> > > > > On Sat, 2015-11-21 at 19:48 +0100, Michael Osipov wrote:
> > > > >> Am 2015-11-21 um 18:01 schrieb Oleg Kalnichevski:
> > > > >>> Folks
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I moved code to org.apache.hc.core5 namespace as the first step.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Now I would like to move things around in order to make the package
> > > > >>> structure more consistent, reduce circular dependencies between 
> > > > >>> packages
> > > > >>> and prepare for messaging code separation into HTTP/1.1 and HTTP/2
> > > > >>> compliant implementations.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> However, more importantly I would like to fold httpcore-nio into
> > > > >>> httpcore. Separation into two modules made sense in 2005 but hardly
> > > > >>> makes any sense today in 2015.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please let me know if you have any objections to that.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I am quite happy with that. The rename is the very first step to get 
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> module in shape.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We should immediately drop deprecated stuff and stuff which is 
> > > > >> already
> > > > >> in Java 7 by default. Moreover stuff which is in other Commons 
> > > > >> projects
> > > > >> which we could either verbatim copy into util or simply depend on it,
> > > > >> e.g., Commons Lang StringUtils/Validate.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Have you thought about adapting group ids and artifact ids as well?
> > > > >> Currently, they seem counter-intuitive to me. Not the way I would 
> > > > >> expect
> > > > >> proper artifact id names. At least not sturctured the way I am used 
> > > > >> from
> > > > >> maven.a.o.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Additionally, the parent POM has a stupid artifact id, as well as
> > > > >> configurations which are by now obsolete or already set by default 
> > > > >> by now.
> > > > >> I'd like to work on the parent POM to take it to a new level which 
> > > > >> would
> > > > >> introduce a new artifact id. It could co-exist with 4.x until it goes
> > > > >> out of life.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you referring to this one?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpcomponents/project/trunk/pom.xml
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, by all of means do feel free to improve it.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, that one. I would prefer to create a new one under
> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpcomponents/pom/trunk/pom.xml to 
> > > > avoid disruptive changes with a new artifact id. The POM is so old that 
> > > > is hasn't been improved structurally for years. There have been so many 
> > > > changes to Apache Parent and Maven Parent from which we can benefit 
> > > > from.
> > > > 
> > > > If you are fine with that, I will copy and start my work next week.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Feel free to completely wipe out the existing pom.xml and start from
> > > scratch. Do we really need a new project location though?
> > 
> > That is a deliberate choice. Given tha the user base is big, I don't want 
> > anyone
> > to open up the "old" URL and see a competely different POM with a different 
> > artifact
> > id. My primary goal is stability and predictability. Otherwise I would wipe 
> > 8-SNAPSHOT
> > and begin it anew.
> > 
> 
> Who would that be? Archaeologists? 

I can't tell, that is why I am cautious.

> There are tags for previous releases for anyone still interested. See no
> reason of what so ever to keep the old branch.

If that is OK for you. I do not mind to re-start inline.

What do others say?

Michael

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