The same criteria should be applied to all Hive committers. Only a
committer should be able to commit code.
I don¹t think we should bend this rule. Metastore is not a separate
project, but a integral part of hive.

-namit


On 11/12/12 10:32 PM, "Alan Gates" <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

>I would suggest looking over the patch history of HCat committers.  I
>think most of them have already contributed a number of patches to the
>metastore.  All are certainly aware of how to run Hive unit tests and
>have an understanding of how Hive works.  So I don't think it's fair to
>say they would be unsafe with access to the metastore.  And the Hive PMC
>is there to assure this does not happen.  If there are issues I am sure
>they can deal with them.
>
>Alan.
>
>
>On Nov 6, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Namit Jain wrote:
>
>> Alan, that would not be a good idea. Metastore code is part of hive
>>code,
>> and it
>> would be safer if only Hive committers had commit access to that.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/6/12 11:25 PM, "Alan Gates" <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Namit Jain wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I like the idea of Hcatalog becoming a Hive sub-project. The
>>>> enhancements/bugs in the serde/metastore areas can indirectly
>>>> benefit the hive community, and it will be easier for the fix to be in
>>>> one
>>>> place. Having said that, I don't see serde/metastore
>>>> moving out of hive into a separate component. Things are tied too
>>>> closely
>>>> together. I am assuming that no new committers would
>>>> be automatically added to Hive as part of this, and both Hive and
>>>> HCatalog
>>>> will continue to have its own committers.
>>> 
>>> One thing in this we'd like to discuss is the HCatalog committers
>>>having
>>> commit access to the metastore sections of Hive code.  That doesn't
>>>mean
>>> it has to move into HCatalog's code base.  But more and more the fixes
>>> and changes we're doing in HCatalog are really in Hive's metastore.  So
>>> we believe it would make sense to give HCat committers access to that
>>> component as well as HCat.
>>> 
>>> Alan.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -namit
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/3/12 2:22 AM, "Alan Gates" <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Hive community.  It is time for HCatalog to graduate from the
>>>>> Apache Incubator.  Given the heavy dependence of HCatalog on Hive the
>>>>> HCatalog community agreed it made sense to explore graduating from
>>>>>the
>>>>> Incubator to become a subproject of Hive (see
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-hcatalog-user/20120
>>>>>9.
>>>>> mb
>>>>> ox/%3C08C40723-8D4D-48EB-942B-8EE4327DD84A%40hortonworks.com%3E and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-hcatalog-user/20121
>>>>>0.
>>>>> mb
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>ox/%3CCABN7xTCRM5wXGgJKEko0PmqDXhuAYpK%2BD-H57T29zcSGhkwGQw%40mail.gma
>>>>>il
>>>>> .c
>>>>> om%3E ).  To help both communities understand what HCatalog is and
>>>>> hopes
>>>>> to become we also developed a roadmap that summarizes HCatalog's
>>>>> current
>>>>> features, planned features, and other possible features under
>>>>> discussion:
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HCATALOG/HCatalog+Roadmap
>>>>> 
>>>>> So we are now approaching you to see if there is agreement in the
>>>>>Hive
>>>>> community that HCatalog graduating into Hive would make sense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alan.
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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