On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 04:12:20PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2003, at 3:57 PM, Glenn wrote:
> >
> >Oh, how about my (effectively) 2-line patch which adds vhost
> >to the error log, which I have posted to this list NO LESS THAN 6 TIMES
> >and spaced out over the past 6 MONTHS in three different formats, using
> >a global, expanding server_rec, and with #defines.
> >
> 
> Ok, that's true, but that *really* does not translate to
> a downpour of disenfranchised 1.3 developers begging for 1.3
> to be re-opened :)

Well, you asked for an example. :)
The patch is required in my environment.

[snip]

> Interesting, but if the usage of APR was that deep within 1.3, then
> wouldn't backwards compatibility with 1.3 go out the window.
> I'm guessing this is your 1.4/1.5 branch. But that doesn't help
> the 1.3 people at all, since (if I'm understanding you correctly)
> all this does is create another Apache version...
> 
> I may be misunderstanding you... or do you mean just have
> Apache 1.3 "APR aware" and not for 1.3 to *use* it per se,
> but allow for modules to call APR... That would be useful,
> but anything deeper than that would scare people I think...
> APR is just as "new" as Apache 2.0.

The latter.  Only that it be available so that I can spend my
time developing with Apache2 paradigms and have most of them
translate to usefullness on Apache 1.3.  Sort of a like a
forward-compatibility to 2.0 in the same way that ap_compat.h
is a backward-compatibility from 2.0 to 1.3.

I think both Rasmus and I have voiced that there needs to be a
better migration path for third-party developers to port modules
to 2.x.  Migrating a stock Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0 is trivial,
but this is not the case when legacy third-party modules are
involved.

Cheers,
Glenn

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