> "Graham Leggett" , Thursday, November 18, 2004 14:43Hi all, > > I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to > install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later.
I have no idea. Stupidity, laziness, fear of change. Maybe it's modules. The bandwidth throttling module might be a valid reason. Some people want to get a few more years of their money's worth that they paid for those $500+ third-party modules 5 years ago, like ASP and FrontPage or whatever. Smaller businesses (the customer) may have had very customized modules made for 1.3 and not have the cash or the incentive (low web revenues) to invest in a programmer to convert to 2.0. I used to work at an ISP as sysadmin three years ago, and everything was 1.3, though 2.0 was still reported as beta, but also reported as running the main Apache website. That's a mixed signal: either you're not confident to stop calling it beta, or you're confident to run your majorly, vitally important website with it. :p PHP is a fun language and I really enjoy using it, but I don't get the FUD crap. I've played with Apache 2.0 for over 2 years now (mostly prefork MPM) and I had only one PHP4 problem, and it was not Apache, but it was a PHP4 problem. After reading the bug database, I saw that they refused to acknonwledge it as a PHP4 problem in thepast and just blamed Apache by default when they heard mention of Apache 2, closed bugs, marked as invalid, refused to reopen or mark as duplicates, repeatedly fixed the problem (several months after it was reported), and repeatedly broke the problem again (same types of reports across multiple versions), and repeatedly announced fixes for the same exact problem. This all seems retarded, to have such animosity or unfriendliness to each other. The server is the one that the language most often runs on, and it is one of the most popular languages to ever run on the server. It would seem like a naturally symbiotic relationship with a huge incentive to cooperate. Eventually, just stop offering 1.3 for download, stop patching 1.3, remove the ability to file 1.3 bug reports, and I suppose people would upgrade, but it probably wouldn't make any friends. ;-) Leif
