On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Graham Leggett <minf...@sharp.fm> wrote:
> trawick wrote: > > > Expectations of n users trump some the behavior of a helper script used > > by a few people, for our rather huge values of n. > > Development on httpd is done in the open, and all our processes, > including our release processes, are transparent, and anybody is free to > improve upon our processes at any time. > > Up till now, Linux users have enjoyed the happy accident that recent > versions of httpd and apr have been rolled for release by the release > manager on Linux. But this is purely a happy accident. Users of other > platforms have quietly made do with the tools available to them, without > complaint. > > Now that a release is being done on a platform other than Linux, > suddenly some people are complaining[1]. > > Not fixing the problem, not submitting patches, just complaining. > > What signal does that send to others who might undertake the daunting > task of making a release? The signal is a clear "don't bother, you'll > trip over some unwritten rule, and someone somewhere will bite your head > off, so just wait till wrowe has time to do it, and keep your head down". > > Like I said before, unwritten rules are evil. If you want it to be a > rule, code it. > > [1] Some users have submitted helpful suggestions, which is exactly what > they should be doing, please may this continue. > It sounded to me from your last e-mail, well into the thread of discussions on how to resolve the issue, that even if people on the list found a solution for the roll script so that the tarball could be verified in the same manner as previous releases, you didn't consider it important and/or feel the need to re-roll, because that is how roll.sh is coded. I disagreed with the principle, and submitted an alternate one. My "disagreement" is apparently "complaining." It also seems like you're implying that I or anyone else shouldn't get to discuss such aspects of the release without contributing towards a solution. It probably isn't surprising that I disagree with that too.
