Building with GUI must be possible, always ! That is just the very strong point 
for building windows;  do not degrade. 

Btw OT, VC11 is around the corner, with also c  language changes, maybe better 
wait for that. 

Op 20 jan. 2012 om 20:32 heeft "Gregg L. Smith" <g...@gknw.net> het volgende 
geschreven:

> On 1/20/2012 12:14 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>> On 1/20/2012 2:06 PM, Gregg L. Smith wrote:
>>> Due to the fact that right now, you have to convert to VC9 first, then 
>>> convert to VC10, I
>>> have some insight here that I am sure you do as well.
>> Good point...
>> 
>>> If you have done this, you may remember how long that last conversion takes 
>>> to accomplish.
>>> I can convert in VC9 from dsw/dsp in under a minute. The last time I tried 
>>> converting VC9
>>> to VC10 it took a long, long time. Minutes, many minutes.
>>> 
>>> I would have to assume converting up from VC7 would be same on VC9 as 
>>> converting 9 to 10.
>>> Even if not, from 7 to 10 would again, be a slow process.
>> That is troublesome.  However, it only affects GUI interaction?  It should
>> not impact .mak based builds.
> 
> True, but there are reasons I prefer the GUI, biggest is where one runs into 
> trouble during a compile. I can rebuild any specific problem project/s, 
> remove buildbin dependency from the installbin project, and when I have 
> hammered out the specific problems, use said installbin to just copy the 
> files into place.
> 
> Good example is recent APR-Util 1.4.1 and the static lib not compiling w/ 
> crypto. I was able to compile all but the few things linked to the static 
> lib, remove the crypto switch in apu.hw, then built the static lib and the 
> things like ab and abs that linked to it, none needed apr_crypto anyway. Not 
> such an easy task to do via makefile.
> 
> New people to the game also prefer the GUI, after all, why do we have Windows 
> (ok, KDE. XServer, Gnome, same in the *nix world these days)?
> 
>>> This was my technical reason behind my request to keep the dsw/dsp files 
>>> while also
>>> supplying VC10 sln/vcproj as well. This way, all are covered, and no one 
>>> has to wait a
>>> long time for the conversion. Sure, many are EOL but none the less still in 
>>> use.
>> Will consider this.  Or provide a much more efficient transition.
> 
> Thanks, I see Steffen has spoken up on this on the other thread as well.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gregg

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