Ouch, yeah, I hate it. :-D

What changes would you make to it?  I'm totally open to ideas.  I've
just never had a problem with it, so I never changed it.  :-)

One think I would do is ditch the build.properties file...nothing ever
changes in it, so it doesn't need to be external.  I'd also change
some of the property names.  (we did both when we cloned the build for
the new project)

Clinton

On 2/13/07, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/13/07, Clinton Begin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really?  I think our build is great.  We just cloned it for a project
> we're working on.

Ouch, yeah, I hate it. :-D

After working with maven for a few months, it seems really overcomplicated.

> No external dependencies or extra steps, and preferrably no
> downloading.....argh.  I hate maven.

But we *do* have external dependencies already. We just jump through
some extra hoops to pretend that we don't (devsrc).

> And I'm a -10000 for Maven generated website.
> Remember, we have .NET and Ruby projects too.

Heh, yeah, OK, I can't argue that, even w/o .net and ruby...maven
generated sites are, well, hideous.

> Cheers,
> Grumpy Clinton
>
> On 2/13/07, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I like the idea - it makes the checkout faster, and "mvn idea:idea" is
> > worth it's weight in gold, and our current build.xml is a bugger, I
> > hate it.
> >
> > So, I wonder if we can skin the generated site to make it not look
> > like crap^H^H^H^H every other maven generated site. :-)
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 2/12/07, Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey Guys,
> > >
> > > I wanted to throw a bone out to everyone and ask the question "Should we 
use
> > > Maven for our build?". I put together a POM today that makes use of the
> > > current iBATIS SQL Map structures. It is pretty darn simple and required
> > > very little effort. The largest amount of my time was spent refactoring 
the
> > > TestCL (Test Classloader) to use the current thread classloader as a 
parent
> > > due to some incompatibilities with how Maven runs it's test. That aside, I
> > > was surprised at how little effort it took to get the iBATIS SQLMap jar
> > > built. Plus, Because of the dependency management of Maven I was able to
> > > avoid having to use the oscache devsrc for oscache and avoid using the
> > > devlib jars. I only used Maven to build the Data Mapper/SQL Map. I wasn't
> > > familiar enough with Abator's build process to wire in Maven for it.
> > >
> > > Benefits:
> > >
> > > * I thought it would be good to aid in reducing the complexity of our
> > > current build/deploy. If we want to provide our jars to the Maven crowd we
> > > would be tasking the deploying member with taking the final jar built from
> > > ant and running deploy:deploy-file for it. I have to say that I looked
> > > through our release process and I really wouldn't want to add yet another
> > > step. Seems like maven can consolidate this for us.
> > > * We can run ant from within Maven if we so desire to continue performing
> > > tasks that maven doesn't provide for.
> > >
> > > Additional benefits, thoughts, or concerns?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Brandon
> > >
> >
>

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