Dmitriy,
I’ve added requested information (see [1]). Can you check that this information is enough, please? [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671?focusedCommentId=16500123&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16500123 > On 3 Jun 2018, at 10:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> wrote: > > Peter, > > I think what is really missing is the installation structure, i.e. where is > the bin, config, lib, work folders. Is IGNITE_HOME pointing somewhere as a > result of the installation? I think, if you explain it to users, there will > be more understanding from the user stand point. > > Can you please add that? > > D. > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dmitriy, >> >> >> I've added warning snippet in the bottom of the Alternative Installation >> Options section with reference on how to start Apache Ignite installed from >> RPM or DEB packages as standalone Java application (see [1]). >> Hope it will be enough. >> >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671? >> focusedCommentId=16499157&page=com.atlassian.jira. >> plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16499157 >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Jun 2018, at 21:57, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> Peter, >>> >>> We cannot have a distribution that works sometimes. >>> >>> I think you should read the ticket carefully. I don't beleive we need to >>> make any changes to the release, it is a matter of fixing the >>> documentation. >>> >>> Can you confirm this? >>> >>> D. >>> >>> >>> On Jun 2, 2018 11:44, "Peter Ivanov" <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dmitriy, >>> >>> >>> You suggest removing fully working under corresponding Linux distributive >>> RPM and DEB packages entirely from apache.org/dist/ignite only because >> they >>> do not work in highly unlikely scenario (Windows 10 WSL) as service? >>> >>> I will certainly add reference about running Apache Ignite from the >>> packages as standalone Java application (with corresponding permissions >>> note) but I’d like to hear community opinion on the whole matter - >>> everything that was done, was done with review and approve from lots of >>> Apache Ignite commiters and PMCs, including PMC chair. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 at 16:12, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Peter, >>>> >>>> I have reopened this ticket: >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671 >>>> >>>> I changed the priority to blocker. At this point I suggest the >> following: >>>> - we either remove the DEB and RPM packages from the website and readme >>>> - or we fix this issue ASAP as stated in the ticket. >>>> >>>> I will leave it up to you to decide. >>>> >>>> D. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Peter Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dmitriy, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SystemD supports running multiple instances of one service – this is >> done >>>>> through @-like syntax: 'sudo systemctl start apache-ignite@ >> <configuration >>>>> file name>', so that with every unique command string there will be >>>>> started >>>>> / stopped unique instance of Apache Ignite. And all instances can be >>>>> restarted / stopped / enabled on boot / etc. simultaneously through >> 'sudo >>>>> systemctl <command> apache-ignite@*'. >>>>> >>>>> Still, I can add a note about possibility of starting Apache Ignite >>>>> manually through ignite.sh with a reference to corresponding >>> documentation >>>>> section, information where to look for the root of Apache Ignite >>>>> installation and how to correctly start Apache Ignite in terms of >>>>> permissions. >>>>> >>>>> File the documentation updates ticket? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 at 01:10, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Petr, >>>>>> >>>>>> Most of the users will download and install Ignite so they can develop >>>>> with >>>>>> it. This means that they will be starting more than one node, which is >>>>>> impossible if Ignite is a service. We should provide instructions to >> do >>>>>> both. >>>>>> >>>>>> D. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Peter Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dmitriy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Current packages design (both RPM and DEB) was reviewed and approved >>>>> by >>>>>>> community. I do not quite remember why service-based startup was >>>>> chosen >>>>>> but >>>>>>> it seems rather logical and Unix-compliant – under Linux almost every >>>>>>> service software is packed this way, which gives some benefits like >>>>>> service >>>>>>> autostart on reboot, centralized running nodes management (through >>>>>>> systemctl), etc. There is no point in packing binary into Linux >>>>> packages >>>>>> if >>>>>>> it then will be used as standalone executable. >>>>>>> Yet, current design does not limit advanced user from running Apache >>>>>> Ignite >>>>>>> as standalone process – executing >>>>> /usr/share/apache-ignite/bin/ignite.sh >>>>>>> with parameters will start Apache Ignite node as if it was delivered >>>>> by >>>>>>> binary archive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 at 20:43, Dmitriy Setrakyan < >>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Petr, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why do we even suggest starting Ignite as a service? Why not just >>>>> start >>>>>>>> Ignite instance as a stand-alone process? This should work, no? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> D. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it seems to be impossible (at least for now) — >>> [1]. >>>>>>>>> So we can say that current package design is for native Linux >>>>>>>> installation >>>>>>>>> only. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671? >>>>>>>>> focusedCommentId=16496813&page=com.atlassian.jira. >>>>>>>>> plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16496813 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 18:22, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671 < >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 17:56, Dmitriy Setrakyan < >>>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:dsetrak...@apache.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Petr Ivanov < >>>>> mr.wei...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:mr.wei...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start the investigation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you please file a ticket so we can track it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
