Peter, can you please fix the text below to point to "log", not "lib"?
log directory is at /var/lib/apache-ignite (mapped to > /var/lib/apache-ignite/log) On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: > Log directory is directly at /var/log/apache-ignite and mapped via symlink > to /var/lib/apache-ignite/log because /var/lib/apache-ignite/ (main work > dir which in its turn is mapped via symlink to > /usr/share/apache—ignite/work) is the place where running node of Apache > Ignite will write it’s logs. > > > > > On 4 Jun 2018, at 16:56, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > Thanks, Petr! > > > > I think the log directory should be at /var/log, not /var/lib, right? > > > > D. > > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Dmitriy, > >> > >> > >> I’ve added requested information (see [1]). > >> Can you check that this information is enough, please? > >> > >> > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671?focusedCom > >> mentId=16500123&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system. > >> issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16500123 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On 3 Jun 2018, at 10:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Peter, > >>> > >>> I think what is really missing is the installation structure, i.e. > where > >> is > >>> the bin, config, lib, work folders. Is IGNITE_HOME pointing somewhere > as > >> a > >>> result of the installation? I think, if you explain it to users, there > >> will > >>> be more understanding from the user stand point. > >>> > >>> Can you please add that? > >>> > >>> D. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dmitriy, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I've added warning snippet in the bottom of the Alternative > Installation > >>>> Options section with reference on how to start Apache Ignite installed > >> from > >>>> RPM or DEB packages as standalone Java application (see [1]). > >>>> Hope it will be enough. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671? > >>>> focusedCommentId=16499157&page=com.atlassian.jira. > >>>> plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16499157 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 2 Jun 2018, at 21:57, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Peter, > >>>>> > >>>>> We cannot have a distribution that works sometimes. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think you should read the ticket carefully. I don't beleive we need > >> to > >>>>> make any changes to the release, it is a matter of fixing the > >>>>> documentation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Can you confirm this? > >>>>> > >>>>> D. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jun 2, 2018 11:44, "Peter Ivanov" <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dmitriy, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You suggest removing fully working under corresponding Linux > >> distributive > >>>>> RPM and DEB packages entirely from apache.org/dist/ignite only > because > >>>> they > >>>>> do not work in highly unlikely scenario (Windows 10 WSL) as service? > >>>>> > >>>>> I will certainly add reference about running Apache Ignite from the > >>>>> packages as standalone Java application (with corresponding > permissions > >>>>> note) but I’d like to hear community opinion on the whole matter - > >>>>> everything that was done, was done with review and approve from lots > of > >>>>> Apache Ignite commiters and PMCs, including PMC chair. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 at 16:12, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > dsetrak...@apache.org> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Peter, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have reopened this ticket: > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I changed the priority to blocker. At this point I suggest the > >>>> following: > >>>>>> - we either remove the DEB and RPM packages from the website and > >> readme > >>>>>> - or we fix this issue ASAP as stated in the ticket. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I will leave it up to you to decide. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> D. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Peter Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dmitriy, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SystemD supports running multiple instances of one service – this > is > >>>> done > >>>>>>> through @-like syntax: 'sudo systemctl start apache-ignite@ > >>>> <configuration > >>>>>>> file name>', so that with every unique command string there will be > >>>>>>> started > >>>>>>> / stopped unique instance of Apache Ignite. And all instances can > be > >>>>>>> restarted / stopped / enabled on boot / etc. simultaneously through > >>>> 'sudo > >>>>>>> systemctl <command> apache-ignite@*'. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Still, I can add a note about possibility of starting Apache Ignite > >>>>>>> manually through ignite.sh with a reference to corresponding > >>>>> documentation > >>>>>>> section, information where to look for the root of Apache Ignite > >>>>>>> installation and how to correctly start Apache Ignite in terms of > >>>>>>> permissions. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> File the documentation updates ticket? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 at 01:10, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > >> dsetrak...@apache.org> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Petr, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Most of the users will download and install Ignite so they can > >> develop > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> it. This means that they will be starting more than one node, > which > >> is > >>>>>>>> impossible if Ignite is a service. We should provide instructions > to > >>>> do > >>>>>>>> both. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> D. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Peter Ivanov < > mr.wei...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dmitriy, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Current packages design (both RPM and DEB) was reviewed and > >> approved > >>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>> community. I do not quite remember why service-based startup was > >>>>>>> chosen > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>> it seems rather logical and Unix-compliant – under Linux almost > >> every > >>>>>>>>> service software is packed this way, which gives some benefits > like > >>>>>>>> service > >>>>>>>>> autostart on reboot, centralized running nodes management > (through > >>>>>>>>> systemctl), etc. There is no point in packing binary into Linux > >>>>>>> packages > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>> it then will be used as standalone executable. > >>>>>>>>> Yet, current design does not limit advanced user from running > >> Apache > >>>>>>>> Ignite > >>>>>>>>> as standalone process – executing > >>>>>>> /usr/share/apache-ignite/bin/ignite.sh > >>>>>>>>> with parameters will start Apache Ignite node as if it was > >> delivered > >>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>> binary archive. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 at 20:43, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > >>>>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Petr, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Why do we even suggest starting Ignite as a service? Why not > just > >>>>>>> start > >>>>>>>>>> Ignite instance as a stand-alone process? This should work, no? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> D. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Petr Ivanov < > mr.wei...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it seems to be impossible (at least for now) — > >>>>> [1]. > >>>>>>>>>>> So we can say that current package design is for native Linux > >>>>>>>>>> installation > >>>>>>>>>>> only. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671? > >>>>>>>>>>> focusedCommentId=16496813&page=com.atlassian.jira. > >>>>>>>>>>> plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16496813 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 18:22, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671 < > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 17:56, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > >>>>>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dsetrak...@apache.org>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Petr Ivanov < > >>>>>>> mr.wei...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mr.wei...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start the investigation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please file a ticket so we can track it? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >
