Hi everyone,

I created an issue in the Apache INFRA project: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16803

Cheers,

Artem


On 19.07.2018 22:58, Dmitry Pavlov wrote:
I appologize, initially I misundersood proposal. I've concluded that new
doc issue will be created automatically by closing original ticket, - this
can be done by plugin only.

If we just introduce flag or combobox for indicate doc is required, there
is no technical issues, it is defenetely possible. So +1 from my side
without concerns.

чт, 19 июл. 2018 г. в 22:02, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:

Ok, if all our doc writers are in the agreement then let's give a couple of
days to our fellow Igniters to share alternate opinions.

Artem, if you don't hear back by Monday then feel free to create an INFRA
ticket.

--
Denis

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:43 AM Prachi Garg <pg...@gridgain.com> wrote:

I totally agree with Denis's point -

"Another benefit of having "Docs Required" flag enabled by default, is
that
Artem and Prachi can see all such tickets months and weeks before a
release, figure out details from source code contributors and complete
the
docs in advance."

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Dmitry Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, I agree. My concern is related only to process implementation
aspect,
I wonder if it is technically possible.

Generally I like idea of automatic control.

ср, 18 июл. 2018 г. в 23:21, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:

Hi folks,

Artem's proposal might simplify and make our doc tickets tracking less
error-prone. The current approach implies that a contributor keeps in
mind
what needs to go to the docs. If he/she has a good memory, a doc JIRA
counterpart will be created once the contribution is accepted. But the
practice shows that the memory lets us down :)

Another benefit of having "Docs Required" flag enabled by default, is
that
Artem and Prachi can see all such tickets months and weeks before a
release, figure out details from source code contributors and complete
the
docs in advance.

--
Denis

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:39 AM Artem Budnikov <
a.budnikov.ign...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dmitry,

The goal I had in mind by proposing that suggestion was to rectify
the
fact that JIRA issues for documentation are created on an ad-hoc
basis,
and often issues are created when the lack of documentation becomes
an
issue for somebody. So we need to be more proactive.

I think manual tracking of issues is possible but as efficient as the
current situation with the docs. Manual tracking will have to be
shared
between multiple contributors and performed outside of JIRA, which
has
its own limitation. If you have any suggestions for improvement
without
creating fields in JIRA, please share your thoughts.

If you are concerned that it's not possible to add a field, then we
should contact Apache Infra and find out.


Best regards,

Artem Budnikov


On 18.07.2018 16:14, Dmitry Pavlov wrote:
Hi Artem,

I sometimes receive feedback that Ignite docs has potential for
improvement, while I found our docs quite intuitive and simple to
understand. So if experienced tech writer will join community it
could
benefit all of us, and users, of course. So you're very welcome to
the
community!

About idea of fields introduction I guess we will need assistance
of
Apache
Infra team, because Ignite shares JIRA with all other Apache
project.
And
I'm not sure that technical implementation of proposed process is
even
possible without plugins. Could we consider some manual processing
of
completed issues in relation to doc requrement?

Sincerely,
Dmitriy Pavlov

ср, 18 июл. 2018 г. в 15:06, Artem Budnikov <
a.budnikov.ign...@gmail.com>:
Hi Igniters,

Being a technical writer, I'm going to contribute to Ignite's
documentation, and I believe documentation is an important part of
every
product, especially such a complex product as Apache Ignite.

I'd like to put forward a suggestion on how to increase our
chances
of
making Ignite documentation more comprehensive. The basic idea is
to
have a Jira issue with the Component field set to "Documentation"
for
every feature that needs to be documented. This will ensure that
there
are documentation issues that cover the entire product
functionality.
Then someone can take on an issue and contribute an article on the
subject.
This is how I envision it to work technically. A new field
(checkbox)
is
added to the Apache Ignite Jira project. The checkbox indicates
that
the
feature requested in this issue needs to be documented. The
checkbox is
selected by default. If the feature does not require
documentation,
then
the author unchecks the checkbox. If it does require
documentation,
the
author creates a related Jira issue selecting "Documentation" in
the
Component field, providing details on what exactly should be
documented.
The field is called "Requires documentation" or similarly. It
could
be
also useful to create a new issue type for documentation issues
exclusively.

Once this is done, we'll be able to filter out

   1. issues that do not require documentation,
   2. issues that have related documentation tickets, and
   3. issues that require documentation but have no related issues
(which
      means that the author forgot to create a documentation issue
for
it).

Please share your thoughts about this.


Best regards,

Artem Budnikov





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