Currently, we discuss only candidates here, isn't it? This is not a vote? Also we should ask candidates about their plans, isn't it?
Please, Denis, remind the procedure of voting, if we will have more than 1 candidate? Ans yet one suggestion: maybe we will rotate every year, and it will be easy for candidates to plan their work-life balance? Thanks чт, 24 окт. 2019 г., 8:44 Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org>: > Hi Igniters, > > I would be happy to serve this role, but since my day job current projects > not related to Ignite, it may cause some delays in replies. > > I would give my +1 to both candidates, but I'm concerned how keeping PMC > Chair inside the company initially donated code to ASF could move the > community to the new trails. I strongly believe giving more control outside > and improving diversity always help to find new ways of developing > solution. > > So I, in any case, don't object to Alexey serving this role. But if Alexey > is more active on the list and if he is not affiliated with GridGain, it > would be ++1 from my side. For now, I'm not so sure. > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 03:39, Nikita Ivanov <niva...@gridgain.com>: > > > > > +1 Alexey Goncharuk > > -- > > Nikita Ivanov > > > > > On Oct 21, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > It’s been almost 3 years since my election as the PMC Chair and I’d > like > > > the community to give other PMC members an opportunity to serve in this > > > role. It’s healthy to rotate the role more frequently and we’re already > > > due. Though the chair doesn’t have formal power, he/she can bring a > fresh > > > perspective and help to navigate the community via trails not > considered > > > before. > > > > > > Please propose candidates selecting among active PMC members: > > > https://ignite.apache.org/community/resources.html#people > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > >> On Monday, December 5, 2016, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> I haven't forgotten. Just got back from a business trip. Will start a > > vote > > >> this week. > > >> > > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > dsetrak...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Cos, I will start the vote soon. A bit over occupied with travel and > > >>> holidays at this moment. > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Ok, > > >>>> > > >>>> This was a great discussion, thanks for the deep insight, Roman! > > >>>> > > >>>> looks like this thread has stewed for a while and it is time to > > [VOTE]. > > >>>> The > > >>>> following candidates were put forward during the [DISCUSS] (in the > > order > > >>>> of > > >>>> their appearance on the thread): > > >>>> > > >>>> Dmitriy Setrakyan > > >>>> Vladimir Ozerov > > >>>> Konstantin Boudnik > > >>>> Valentin Kulichenko > > >>>> Denis Magda > > >>>> Branko Čibej > > >>>> > > >>>> Considering the number of the candidates I propose to use > > >>>> First-past-the-post > > >>>> voting, with a single-round/single winner rules, where the candidate > > >>>> collecting the most votes (not the majority) wins. [1] > > >>>> > > >>>> Dmitriy, would you do the honors and start the formal [VOTE]? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Cos > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:19PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan > > >>>>> <dsetrak...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>>>>> While all the candidates suggested so far look good, I would > propose > > >>>> Denis > > >>>>>> Magda as the next PMC chair. His participation in the project does > > >>>> not only > > >>>>>> have to do with the code, but also with Ignite project overall, > > >>>> including > > >>>>>> website, documentation, new tickets, design, etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sorry to come to this thread rather late, but I wanted to offer a > > >>>> somewhat > > >>>>> different perspective that hopefully can help reframe this > discussion > > >>>>> a little bit. > > >>>>> Note, that what I'm about to say is coming from a non-coding (on > > >>>> Ignite) member > > >>>>> of the PMC. In fact, I stayed on the PMC after graduation more with > > my > > >>>> ASF > > >>>>> member hat on, rather than as somebody who wanted to directly > > >> contribute > > >>>>> to where the technology was going. My concern during your > incubation > > >>>> days > > >>>>> was (and still is!) how well are you guys doing on the community > > >>>> development > > >>>>> front. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If you recall, the diversity requirement (the fact that more than > 80% > > >>>> of project > > >>>>> members work for the same company) came up during our graduation. > > >> While > > >>>>> it wasn't a blocking requirement it still was a very valid concern. > > >>>> Monocultures > > >>>>> are really nasty for open source communities. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think it would be fair to say that Ignite community hasn't really > > >>>>> improved much > > >>>>> diversity-wise since its graduation. And I honestly feel that this > > is, > > >>>>> to a larger > > >>>>> extent, because the focus is now missing. It was well understood > that > > >>>> in order > > >>>>> to graduate the community had to do all it can to demonstrate a > > >>>>> positive trajectory > > >>>>> in that direction. And we did. But we kind of dropped the ball on > it > > >>>> since. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> With that in mind, I offer my view on what a change in the Chair > > could > > >>>>> offer: a renewed > > >>>>> focus on community growth and development. If you agree with this > > >>>> premise than > > >>>>> somebody like Branko or Cos who could act as a forcing function to > > >>>> constantly > > >>>>> remind us about what else can we do to grow and develop this > > community > > >>>> would > > >>>>> be an ideal choice for the Chair (after all Branko's "tough love" > was > > >>>>> probably the > > >>>>> most useful part of Ignite's experience in the Incubator). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Now, of course, strictly speaking you don't have to be a Chair to > do > > >>>>> that. But lets > > >>>>> face it -- that helps. And besides, a project's Chair doesn't > really > > >>>>> have any special > > >>>>> powers when it comes to technological consensus, but anything that > > has > > >>>> to do > > >>>>> with external community the VP title that the chair gets can help > > >> quite > > >>>> a bit. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Long story short: if Branko or Cos (as former mentors) would like > to > > >>>>> commit to 6 more > > >>>>> months of the same hands-on mentorship focused on community > > >> development > > >>>> -- they > > >>>>> would have my wholehearted support. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>> Roman (with my PMC member hat on). > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > - > > > Denis > > >
