Igniters, Below is a list of proposed candidates. Let's give the candidates time until Monday to either confirm or reject their candidacy. Those who confirm will be sent for the vote. If we don't hear back from someone by that time, then the silence will be treated as a rejection. Keep in mind that even though everyone is free to cast a vote, the votes of PMC members are counted for the Chair election:
- Nikolay Izhikov - Alexey Goncharuk - Dmitry Pavlov (confirmed) - Pavel Tupitsyn - Roman Shtykh - Vladimir Ozerov (thinking) - Yakov Zhdanov - Andrey Gura - Anton Vinogradov (rejected) - Denis Magda (rejected) On a side note. Vova, it's nice to hear back from you, look forward to your return to the community. I know that you're a man of honor but, please, ensure that a demarcation zone is set between what you do for the community and for your current employer. We know that Ignite is competing but not complementing technology to Hazelcast and, as Ignite PMC, need to ensure that the vendor doesn't exploit your involvement in the project anyhow harmful for Ignite. Again, no any concerns about you, we trust you, just as advice, discuss and set the rules with the employer from the get-go. Finally, the reason why the Chair rotation was proposed and why I'm excluding my candidacy from the list. The community is grown-up, we have excellent candidates who can serve the community as the Chair and they need to be given a chance to drive and influence even bigger changes [1]. As for me, nothing changes, I'll be contributing to the community growth similarly if not bigger. [1] http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-in-2019-Status-and-Directions-td44147.html - Denis On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 6:18 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> wrote: > Alexey Zinoviev, Igniters, sorry for topic high-jacking / side reply, but I > have to stress one thing. > > Both Committers and PMC groups are not a sort of clubs, it is just roles. > One can accept patches, another can reject a patch using veto and > suggest/vote for new committers. > > There is nothing special in being PMC; and, actually, noting happens on a > private list now. Just a couple of requests related to Apache Con. This is > sign of a healthy community, when everything is discussed on dev list, in > public. Once private list becomes too active it is a negative thing, it is > a sign of a disagreement. This is not a case of Ignite nowadays. > > Please consider both of these roles in community as recognition of merit > and sign of trust, but not invitation into closed/private club. > > A bit of info related to PMC and VP: > https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 13:18, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>: > > > Hi Vova, > > > > Glad to hear from you. I hope that we will hear from you soon about > > Hazelnite (Igncast?) independently whether you become Ignite PMC Chair > > or not. > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 11:49, Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>: > > > > > > Vova, > > > +1 to your candidacy. > > > Just say yes. > > > > > > As for me, huge thanks for the proposal but being PMC Member currently > > > enough for me :) > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:21 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Vova, I will vote for your candidacy as well. Your candidacy came for > > 2nd > > > > time (I've checked previous thread). > > > > This is a good sign that we should think about you serving as Chair. > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 11:16, Vladimir Ozerov <ppoze...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > HI Anton, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for adding me to the list. Ignite community is very vibrant, > > it > > > > > would be a honor for me to resonate it even further. For example, I > > was > > > > > thinking about Ignite - Hazelcast integration (aka "Hazelnite") > which > > > > could > > > > > have bring a lot of fresh technical discussions to the list. > > > > > But as this may affect diversirty of my life, let me think more > > whether I > > > > > am ready for this role ... > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir. > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 10:34, Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > More candidates: > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alexey Zinoviev. > > > > > > He is not a PMC member, but it's definitely time to change this. > > > > > > BigData evangelist. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Ivan Rakov. > > > > > > He is not a PMC member, but it's definitely time to change this. > > > > > > Distributed systems evangelist and great lead. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Denis Magda. > > > > > > Keeping this stable is also the option. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Pavel Tupitsyn. > > > > > > Open-minded, experienced in global communications. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Roman Shtykh. > > > > > > Rocketmq and Ignite committer. > > > > > > Highly involved to Ignite development and popularization. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Vladimir Ozerov > > > > > > Ignite and Hazelcast committer. > > > > > > Man with really strong leadership skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Yakov Zhdanov > > > > > > Ignite's Godfather. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:18 AM Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, we discuss only candidates here, isn't it? This is > > not a > > > > > vote? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we should ask candidates about their plans, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, Denis, remind the procedure of voting, if we will have > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > candidate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ans yet one suggestion: maybe we will rotate every year, and it > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > easy for candidates to plan their work-life balance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г., 8:44 Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be happy to serve this role, but since my day job > > current > > > > > > > projects > > > > > > > > not related to Ignite, it may cause some delays in replies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would give my +1 to both candidates, but I'm concerned how > > > > keeping > > > > > > PMC > > > > > > > > Chair inside the company initially donated code to ASF could > > move > > > > the > > > > > > > > community to the new trails. I strongly believe giving more > > control > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > and improving diversity always help to find new ways of > > developing > > > > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I, in any case, don't object to Alexey serving this role. > > But if > > > > > > > Alexey > > > > > > > > is more active on the list and if he is not affiliated with > > > > GridGain, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would be ++1 from my side. For now, I'm not so sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 03:39, Nikita Ivanov < > > niva...@gridgain.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 Alexey Goncharuk > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Nikita Ivanov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 21, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Denis Magda < > > dma...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It’s been almost 3 years since my election as the PMC > > Chair and > > > > > I’d > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > the community to give other PMC members an opportunity to > > serve > > > > > in > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > role. It’s healthy to rotate the role more frequently and > > we’re > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > due. Though the chair doesn’t have formal power, he/she > can > > > > > bring a > > > > > > > > fresh > > > > > > > > > > perspective and help to navigate the community via trails > > not > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please propose candidates selecting among active PMC > > members: > > > > > > > > > > > https://ignite.apache.org/community/resources.html#people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Monday, December 5, 2016, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> I haven't forgotten. Just got back from a business trip. > > Will > > > > > > start > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > vote > > > > > > > > > >> this week. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> Cos, I will start the vote soon. A bit over occupied > with > > > > > travel > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> holidays at this moment. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Konstantin Boudnik < > > > > > > > c...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ok, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> This was a great discussion, thanks for the deep > > insight, > > > > > Roman! > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> looks like this thread has stewed for a while and it > is > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > [VOTE]. > > > > > > > > > >>>> The > > > > > > > > > >>>> following candidates were put forward during the > > [DISCUSS] > > > > (in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > > > > > >>>> their appearance on the thread): > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dmitriy Setrakyan > > > > > > > > > >>>> Vladimir Ozerov > > > > > > > > > >>>> Konstantin Boudnik > > > > > > > > > >>>> Valentin Kulichenko > > > > > > > > > >>>> Denis Magda > > > > > > > > > >>>> Branko Čibej > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Considering the number of the candidates I propose to > > use > > > > > > > > > >>>> First-past-the-post > > > > > > > > > >>>> voting, with a single-round/single winner rules, where > > the > > > > > > > candidate > > > > > > > > > >>>> collecting the most votes (not the majority) wins. [1] > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dmitriy, would you do the honors and start the formal > > > > [VOTE]? > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> [1] > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Cos > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:19PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan > > > > > > > > > >>>>> <dsetrak...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> While all the candidates suggested so far look > good, I > > > > would > > > > > > > > propose > > > > > > > > > >>>> Denis > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Magda as the next PMC chair. His participation in > the > > > > > project > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > >>>> not only > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> have to do with the code, but also with Ignite > project > > > > > > overall, > > > > > > > > > >>>> including > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> website, documentation, new tickets, design, etc. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Sorry to come to this thread rather late, but I > wanted > > to > > > > > > offer a > > > > > > > > > >>>> somewhat > > > > > > > > > >>>>> different perspective that hopefully can help reframe > > this > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > >>>>> a little bit. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Note, that what I'm about to say is coming from a > > > > non-coding > > > > > > (on > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ignite) member > > > > > > > > > >>>>> of the PMC. In fact, I stayed on the PMC after > > graduation > > > > > more > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > >>>> ASF > > > > > > > > > >>>>> member hat on, rather than as somebody who wanted to > > > > directly > > > > > > > > > >> contribute > > > > > > > > > >>>>> to where the technology was going. My concern during > > your > > > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > > > >>>> days > > > > > > > > > >>>>> was (and still is!) how well are you guys doing on > the > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > >>>> development > > > > > > > > > >>>>> front. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> If you recall, the diversity requirement (the fact > that > > > > more > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > 80% > > > > > > > > > >>>> of project > > > > > > > > > >>>>> members work for the same company) came up during our > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > >> While > > > > > > > > > >>>>> it wasn't a blocking requirement it still was a very > > valid > > > > > > > concern. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Monocultures > > > > > > > > > >>>>> are really nasty for open source communities. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I think it would be fair to say that Ignite community > > > > hasn't > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > >>>>> improved much > > > > > > > > > >>>>> diversity-wise since its graduation. And I honestly > > feel > > > > that > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > >>>>> to a larger > > > > > > > > > >>>>> extent, because the focus is now missing. It was well > > > > > > understood > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > >>>> in order > > > > > > > > > >>>>> to graduate the community had to do all it can to > > > > > demonstrate a > > > > > > > > > >>>>> positive trajectory > > > > > > > > > >>>>> in that direction. And we did. But we kind of dropped > > the > > > > > ball > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > >>>> since. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> With that in mind, I offer my view on what a change > in > > the > > > > > > Chair > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > >>>>> offer: a renewed > > > > > > > > > >>>>> focus on community growth and development. If you > agree > > > > with > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > >>>> premise than > > > > > > > > > >>>>> somebody like Branko or Cos who could act as a > forcing > > > > > function > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>>> constantly > > > > > > > > > >>>>> remind us about what else can we do to grow and > develop > > > > this > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > > > >>>>> be an ideal choice for the Chair (after all Branko's > > "tough > > > > > > love" > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > >>>>> probably the > > > > > > > > > >>>>> most useful part of Ignite's experience in the > > Incubator). > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Now, of course, strictly speaking you don't have to > be > > a > > > > > Chair > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > >>>>> that. But lets > > > > > > > > > >>>>> face it -- that helps. And besides, a project's Chair > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > >>>>> have any special > > > > > > > > > >>>>> powers when it comes to technological consensus, but > > > > anything > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > >>>> to do > > > > > > > > > >>>>> with external community the VP title that the chair > > gets > > > > can > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > >> quite > > > > > > > > > >>>> a bit. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Long story short: if Branko or Cos (as former > mentors) > > > > would > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>>>> commit to 6 more > > > > > > > > > >>>>> months of the same hands-on mentorship focused on > > community > > > > > > > > > >> development > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- they > > > > > > > > > >>>>> would have my wholehearted support. > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Roman (with my PMC member hat on). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Ivan Pavlukhin > > >
