Ignites, overall, here is a list of candidates who confirmed their participation in the vote. The others are either rejected or not responded publicly/privately.
- Alexey Goncharuk - Dmitry Pavlov - Nikolay Izhikov - Pavel Tupitsyn As proposed in this discussion, let's bring up the PMC rotation topic once a year to see if the community is willing to give another candidate to take the role. But the rotation shouldn't be obligatory if a current PMC is ready to carry on and the community doesn't see a need for the rotation. - Denis On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 2:22 AM Alexey Goncharuk <alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks folks, I'm in. > > пт, 25 окт. 2019 г. в 23:44, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: > > > I'm in. > > > > В Чт, 24/10/2019 в 11:48 -0700, Denis Magda пишет: > > > Igniters, > > > > > > Below is a list of proposed candidates. Let's give the candidates time > > > until Monday to either confirm or reject their candidacy. Those who > > confirm > > > will be sent for the vote. If we don't hear back from someone by that > > time, > > > then the silence will be treated as a rejection. Keep in mind that even > > > though everyone is free to cast a vote, the votes of PMC members are > > > counted for the Chair election: > > > > > > - Nikolay Izhikov > > > - Alexey Goncharuk > > > - Dmitry Pavlov (confirmed) > > > - Pavel Tupitsyn > > > - Roman Shtykh > > > - Vladimir Ozerov (thinking) > > > - Yakov Zhdanov > > > - Andrey Gura > > > - Anton Vinogradov (rejected) > > > - Denis Magda (rejected) > > > > > > On a side note. > > > > > > Vova, it's nice to hear back from you, look forward to your return to > the > > > community. I know that you're a man of honor but, please, ensure that a > > > demarcation zone is set between what you do for the community and for > > your > > > current employer. We know that Ignite is competing but not > complementing > > > technology to Hazelcast and, as Ignite PMC, need to ensure that the > > vendor > > > doesn't exploit your involvement in the project anyhow harmful for > > Ignite. > > > Again, no any concerns about you, we trust you, just as advice, discuss > > and > > > set the rules with the employer from the get-go. > > > > > > Finally, the reason why the Chair rotation was proposed and why I'm > > > excluding my candidacy from the list. The community is grown-up, we > have > > > excellent candidates who can serve the community as the Chair and they > > need > > > to be given a chance to drive and influence even bigger changes [1]. As > > for > > > me, nothing changes, I'll be contributing to the community growth > > similarly > > > if not bigger. > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-in-2019-Status-and-Directions-td44147.html > > > > > > - > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 6:18 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Alexey Zinoviev, Igniters, sorry for topic high-jacking / side reply, > > but I > > > > have to stress one thing. > > > > > > > > Both Committers and PMC groups are not a sort of clubs, it is just > > roles. > > > > One can accept patches, another can reject a patch using veto and > > > > suggest/vote for new committers. > > > > > > > > There is nothing special in being PMC; and, actually, noting happens > > on a > > > > private list now. Just a couple of requests related to Apache Con. > > This is > > > > sign of a healthy community, when everything is discussed on dev > list, > > in > > > > public. Once private list becomes too active it is a negative thing, > > it is > > > > a sign of a disagreement. This is not a case of Ignite nowadays. > > > > > > > > Please consider both of these roles in community as recognition of > > merit > > > > and sign of trust, but not invitation into closed/private club. > > > > > > > > A bit of info related to PMC and VP: > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 13:18, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > Hi Vova, > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear from you. I hope that we will hear from you soon about > > > > > Hazelnite (Igncast?) independently whether you become Ignite PMC > > Chair > > > > > or not. > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 11:49, Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > Vova, > > > > > > +1 to your candidacy. > > > > > > Just say yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for me, huge thanks for the proposal but being PMC Member > > currently > > > > > > enough for me :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:21 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > dpav...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vova, I will vote for your candidacy as well. Your candidacy > > came for > > > > > > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > time (I've checked previous thread). > > > > > > > This is a good sign that we should think about you serving as > > Chair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 11:16, Vladimir Ozerov < > ppoze...@gmail.com > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI Anton, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for adding me to the list. Ignite community is very > > vibrant, > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > would be a honor for me to resonate it even further. For > > example, I > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > thinking about Ignite - Hazelcast integration (aka > "Hazelnite") > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > have bring a lot of fresh technical discussions to the list. > > > > > > > > But as this may affect diversirty of my life, let me think > more > > > > > > > > > > whether I > > > > > > > > am ready for this role ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 10:34, Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More candidates: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alexey Zinoviev. > > > > > > > > > He is not a PMC member, but it's definitely time to change > > this. > > > > > > > > > BigData evangelist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Ivan Rakov. > > > > > > > > > He is not a PMC member, but it's definitely time to change > > this. > > > > > > > > > Distributed systems evangelist and great lead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Denis Magda. > > > > > > > > > Keeping this stable is also the option. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Pavel Tupitsyn. > > > > > > > > > Open-minded, experienced in global communications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Roman Shtykh. > > > > > > > > > Rocketmq and Ignite committer. > > > > > > > > > Highly involved to Ignite development and popularization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Vladimir Ozerov > > > > > > > > > Ignite and Hazelcast committer. > > > > > > > > > Man with really strong leadership skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Yakov Zhdanov > > > > > > > > > Ignite's Godfather. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:18 AM Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, we discuss only candidates here, isn't it? > This > > is > > > > > > > > > > not a > > > > > > > > vote? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we should ask candidates about their plans, isn't > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, Denis, remind the procedure of voting, if we will > > have > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > candidate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ans yet one suggestion: maybe we will rotate every year, > > and it > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > easy for candidates to plan their work-life balance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г., 8:44 Dmitriy Pavlov < > > dpav...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be happy to serve this role, but since my day > job > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > projects > > > > > > > > > > > not related to Ignite, it may cause some delays in > > replies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would give my +1 to both candidates, but I'm > concerned > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keeping > > > > > > > > > PMC > > > > > > > > > > > Chair inside the company initially donated code to ASF > > could > > > > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > community to the new trails. I strongly believe giving > > more > > > > > > > > > > control > > > > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > > > > and improving diversity always help to find new ways of > > > > > > > > > > developing > > > > > > > > > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I, in any case, don't object to Alexey serving this > > role. > > > > > > > > > > But if > > > > > > > > > > Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > is more active on the list and if he is not affiliated > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GridGain, > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > would be ++1 from my side. For now, I'm not so sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 03:39, Nikita Ivanov < > > > > > > > > > > niva...@gridgain.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 Alexey Goncharuk > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikita Ivanov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 21, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Denis Magda < > > > > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It’s been almost 3 years since my election as the > PMC > > > > > > > > > > Chair and > > > > > > > > I’d > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > the community to give other PMC members an > > opportunity to > > > > > > > > > > serve > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > role. It’s healthy to rotate the role more > > frequently and > > > > > > > > > > we’re > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > > due. Though the chair doesn’t have formal power, > > he/she > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > bring a > > > > > > > > > > > fresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > perspective and help to navigate the community via > > trails > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please propose candidates selecting among active > PMC > > > > > > > > > > members: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ignite.apache.org/community/resources.html#people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2016, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't forgotten. Just got back from a > business > > trip. > > > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > vote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Dmitriy > Setrakyan > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cos, I will start the vote soon. A bit over > > occupied > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > travel > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > holidays at this moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Konstantin > > Boudnik < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was a great discussion, thanks for the > > deep > > > > > > > > > > insight, > > > > > > > > Roman! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks like this thread has stewed for a while > > and it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > time > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > [VOTE]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following candidates were put forward during > > the > > > > > > > > > > [DISCUSS] > > > > > > > (in > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their appearance on the thread): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir Ozerov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Konstantin Boudnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Valentin Kulichenko > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis Magda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Branko Čibej > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering the number of the candidates I > > propose to > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First-past-the-post > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voting, with a single-round/single winner > > rules, where > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > candidate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > collecting the most votes (not the majority) > > wins. [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, would you do the honors and start > the > > formal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [VOTE]? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:19PM, Roman > > Shaposhnik > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Dmitriy > > Setrakyan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dsetrak...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While all the candidates suggested so far > > look > > > > > > > > good, I > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > propose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Magda as the next PMC chair. His > > participation in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to do with the code, but also with > > Ignite > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > overall, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website, documentation, new tickets, > > design, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to come to this thread rather late, > > but I > > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > offer a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different perspective that hopefully can > > help reframe > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a little bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note, that what I'm about to say is coming > > from a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-coding > > > > > > > > > (on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite) member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the PMC. In fact, I stayed on the PMC > > after > > > > > > > > > > graduation > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member hat on, rather than as somebody who > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contribute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to where the technology was going. My > > concern during > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was (and still is!) how well are you guys > > doing on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > front. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you recall, the diversity requirement > > (the fact > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > 80% > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members work for the same company) came up > > during our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it wasn't a blocking requirement it still > > was a very > > > > > > > > > > valid > > > > > > > > > > concern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monocultures > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are really nasty for open source > communities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it would be fair to say that Ignite > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hasn't > > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improved much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diversity-wise since its graduation. And I > > honestly > > > > > > > > > > feel > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a larger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extent, because the focus is now missing. > It > > was well > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understood > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in order > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to graduate the community had to do all it > > can to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demonstrate a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > positive trajectory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in that direction. And we did. But we kind > > of dropped > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > ball > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, I offer my view on what > a > > change > > > > > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Chair > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > offer: a renewed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > focus on community growth and development. > > If you > > > > > > > > agree > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > premise than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody like Branko or Cos who could act > as > > a > > > > > > > > forcing > > > > > > > > function > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constantly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remind us about what else can we do to grow > > and > > > > > > > > develop > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be an ideal choice for the Chair (after all > > Branko's > > > > > > > > > > "tough > > > > > > > > > love" > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most useful part of Ignite's experience in > > the > > > > > > > > > > Incubator). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, of course, strictly speaking you don't > > have to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > a > > > > > > > > Chair > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that. But lets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > face it -- that helps. And besides, a > > project's Chair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have any special > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > powers when it comes to technological > > consensus, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with external community the VP title that > > the chair > > > > > > > > > > gets > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Long story short: if Branko or Cos (as > former > > > > > > > > mentors) > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit to 6 more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months of the same hands-on mentorship > > focused on > > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would have my wholehearted support. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roman (with my PMC member hat on). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Ivan Pavlukhin > > > > > > > >
