Hi Denis, Yes, dedicated repository is also a good idea and we can create submodules inside each specific repository for individual extensions.
Regards, Saikat On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote: > Folks, > > What do you think about having a dedicated repository for each extension > instead of a single one? It sounds complicated but might be worthwhile for > cases when an integration requires to support several versions. Take Spark > or Hibernate as an example, we already provide different versions of Ignite > packages for various Spark/Hibernate versions. It will be easier to handle > if Spark or Hibernate had their own repos. > > - > Denis > > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:06 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello Alexey, > > > > Thank you for your email. Yes, I am also aligned for ignite-extensions. > > > > If others are also ok we can create the new repository with name > > ignite-extensions. > > > > Regards, > > Saikat > > > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 3:11 AM Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Vote for ignite-extensions (it's more widely than ignite-connectors) > > > > > > сб, 26 окт. 2019 г. в 05:52, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > Hello Denis, Dmitriy > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. I am thinking when a new repo is created > that > > > > will not mean that the project will undergo Incubator process , Is > > > > this correct? > > > > > > > > We actually want to just take few of our integrations and release > them > > > > separately as part of this new git repository. We will continue to > keep > > > the > > > > release group name and artifact name same. > > > > > > > > I will definitely help drive the initiative to migrate our > integrations > > > > into this new Ignite Extension repo. > > > > > > > > I seek help from our community to propose new name for Ignite > Extension > > > > repository. > > > > > > > > Some ideas, I have are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > - ignite-extensions > > > > - ignite-sidecar > > > > - ignite-ext > > > > - ignite-connectors > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Saikat > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 4:06 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Denis, > > > > > > > > > > any PMC member can create repository here > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > We just need to select repo names in advance. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > пт, 25 окт. 2019 г. в 23:57, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > Saikat, sounds great. > > > > > > > > > > > > As long as you're already driving this initiative, could you > please > > > > check > > > > > > with ASF Infra how to put this approach in place? Will we be able > > to > > > > > create > > > > > > several additional repositories for extensions and release them > as > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > the Ignite project? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 7:18 PM Saikat Maitra < > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Denis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I see it now as I think more about it, I like option - 0. > I > > am > > > > > > > thinking from a new member and a contributor perspective for > > Ignite > > > > > > > project, I would very much like my PR and proposal to be > accepted > > > > > within > > > > > > > Ignite community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Saikat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:56 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly, Dmitry found the right word for the reason why > > option-0 > > > > > might > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > the best one - to avoid the Ignite community *split*. All > those > > > who > > > > > > will > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > contributing to integrations and extensions need to be able > to > > > > earn a > > > > > > > > status of an Ignite committer and PMC members. Otherwise, I'm > > not > > > > > sure > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > Emmanouil and others to come will be fully involved in the > > Ignite > > > > > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saikat, Emmanouil, what do you think if to look from this > > > > > perspective? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:04 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > dpav...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hah, IMHO, it is a story of how pushing others to place > their > > > > > > > > contribution > > > > > > > > > outside ASF could lead projects to split their communities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe, the Ignite community is more open and flexible > in > > > that > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > So Option-0. is also OK from my perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 04:01, Saikat Maitra < > > > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I looked into the way Apache Bahir manages their > extensions > > > for > > > > > > Spark > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Flink and it looks like they are much independent in > terms > > of > > > > > > > managing > > > > > > > > > > their releases. They also have separate git repos for > > apache > > > > > bahir > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > apache bahir-flink. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Releases : > > > > > > > > > > https://bahir.apache.org/downloads/spark/ > > > > > > > > > > https://bahir.apache.org/downloads/flink/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Repos : > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/bahir > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/bahir-flink > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking if we are following the similar pattern we > > can > > > > > > create a > > > > > > > > > > separate git repo under the Org apache / > ignite-extentions > > or > > > > > > apache > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > bahir-ignite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If most of our integrations are data streaming connectors > > > that > > > > we > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > interested to migrate to separate repository then joining > > > > Apache > > > > > > > Bahir > > > > > > > > > > project and managing independent release cycle will > benefit > > > us > > > > as > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > help foster cross community engagement and support. The > > > purpose > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Bahir > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > also to host such extensions as ours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading this news article and it resonated similar > > > ideas > > > > > that > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > specific to managing release cycles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://thenewstack.io/apache-bahir-gives-spark-extensions-new-home/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please review and share your feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Saikat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 4:29 PM Denis Magda < > > > dma...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about considering the option Dmitriy named as "0. > > > placing > > > > > > > > > integration > > > > > > > > > > > in a separate module within space of Apache Ignite"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing prevents us from following concepts of Bahir > > > project > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sense > > > > > > > > > > > that we'll be creating and managing separate > repositories > > > for > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > extensions/modules but those will be governed by the > > Ignite > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > all the contributors to the extensions will be becoming > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > committers > > > > > > > > > > > and PMC members. The more I think about this approach > the > > > > more > > > > > I > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > dpav...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Saikat, Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually we have 3 ways to solve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > 0. placing integration in a separate module within > > space > > > of > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Apache Bahir > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Apache Incubator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if option 2 is the best one since it is > > more > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > building > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > new community around Ignite Extensions, it may be > > tricky. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But 0 and 1 seem to be perfectly OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I like option 1 most since it is very natural to > > move > > > > > > > > > Ignite-Kafka, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite-Camel to a separate project specially intended > > for > > > > > > > > > integration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if we stay with option 1 I would be glad to help. > > > Count > > > > on > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > > > > within the migration to Apache Bahir. Inter-project > > > > > interaction > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > integration are usually welcomed in the ASF. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 23 окт. 2019 г. в 09:31, Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, dear Saikat Maitra, could you please describe > > how > > > > you > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > release cycles in Bahir Ignite Extensions and how > it > > be > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > release, 2.9, 3.0 for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your energy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 23 окт. 2019 г., 8:10 Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Please, give me permissions too, I'd glad to help > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > modules > > > > > > > > > > > > >> migration and support part of them in future, but > > also > > > > we > > > > > > need > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > >> contributor but a few Committer permissions to > merge > > > In > > > > > > > > repository > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > >> side it could be very long proccess. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Could you ask Bahir Community about that? > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ср, 23 окт. 2019 г., 2:31 Saikat Maitra < > > > > > > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I discussed with Apache Bahir community and they > > are > > > > > > > interested > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Apache Ignite extensions as part of Apache Bahir > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I have also requested for contributor access in > > Jira > > > > for > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > Bahir > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> project so that I can create issues and assign to > > > > > myself. I > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> code reviews as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Also my thoughts on releases specific to > > dependencies > > > > for > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> is > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to do a fast follow up release for modules based > on > > > > > latest > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> stable release. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Here is the email thread for reference > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@bahir.apache.org/msg02703.html > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I wanted to connect and get feedback on the > > proposal > > > > and > > > > > if > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > ok > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> move the following Apache Ignite Extensions > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-36%3A+Modularization#IEP-36:Modularization-IndependentIntegrations > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Saikat > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:44 PM Saikat Maitra < > > > > > > > > > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > We wanted to discuss on a proposal to move and > > > > support > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > integrations as separate Ignite Extensions as > > > > discussed > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Pub-Sub-Streamer-Implementation-td43944.html > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > . > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > The reason we wanted to move our Apache Ignite > > > > > > integration > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > separate > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Extensions is this will help us to manage and > > > > maintain > > > > > > > > separate > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> lifecycle > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > for Apache Ignite integrations. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > All the integrations will continue to be part > of > > > ASF > > > > > and > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > supporting and developing in accordance with > ASF > > > > vision > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > practices. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > We are considering following two choices for > > moving > > > > to > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Extensions: > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > 1. Reach out to Apache Bahir community and > > propose > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Extensions a separate module as part of Apache > > > Bahir > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > https://bahir.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces96 > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > 2. Reach out to Apache Incubator community and > > > > request > > > > > > for > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> project > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > for Ignite Extensions. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Please review and share feedback on our > proposal. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Saikat > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
