Folks, Just another one name candidate "ignite-integrations"
Or are there not only integrations? вт, 29 окт. 2019 г. в 03:31, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com>: > > Hi Denis, > > I meant we can create dedicated repository for individual extensions and we > can create submodules inside each specific repository for individual > extensions versions. > > Regards, > Saikat > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:14 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Denis, > > > > Yes, dedicated repository is also a good idea and we can create submodules > > inside each specific repository for individual extensions. > > > > Regards, > > Saikat > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Folks, > >> > >> What do you think about having a dedicated repository for each extension > >> instead of a single one? It sounds complicated but might be worthwhile for > >> cases when an integration requires to support several versions. Take Spark > >> or Hibernate as an example, we already provide different versions of > >> Ignite > >> packages for various Spark/Hibernate versions. It will be easier to handle > >> if Spark or Hibernate had their own repos. > >> > >> - > >> Denis > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:06 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hello Alexey, > >> > > >> > Thank you for your email. Yes, I am also aligned for ignite-extensions. > >> > > >> > If others are also ok we can create the new repository with name > >> > ignite-extensions. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Saikat > >> > > >> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 3:11 AM Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Vote for ignite-extensions (it's more widely than ignite-connectors) > >> > > > >> > > сб, 26 окт. 2019 г. в 05:52, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com>: > >> > > > >> > > > Hello Denis, Dmitriy > >> > > > > >> > > > Thank you for your reply. I am thinking when a new repo is created > >> that > >> > > > will not mean that the project will undergo Incubator process , Is > >> > > > this correct? > >> > > > > >> > > > We actually want to just take few of our integrations and release > >> them > >> > > > separately as part of this new git repository. We will continue to > >> keep > >> > > the > >> > > > release group name and artifact name same. > >> > > > > >> > > > I will definitely help drive the initiative to migrate our > >> integrations > >> > > > into this new Ignite Extension repo. > >> > > > > >> > > > I seek help from our community to propose new name for Ignite > >> Extension > >> > > > repository. > >> > > > > >> > > > Some ideas, I have are as follows: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > - ignite-extensions > >> > > > - ignite-sidecar > >> > > > - ignite-ext > >> > > > - ignite-connectors > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Regards, > >> > > > Saikat > >> > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 4:06 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Denis, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > any PMC member can create repository here > >> > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/ > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We just need to select repo names in advance. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Sincerely, > >> > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > >> > > > > > >> > > > > пт, 25 окт. 2019 г. в 23:57, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Saikat, sounds great. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > As long as you're already driving this initiative, could you > >> please > >> > > > check > >> > > > > > with ASF Infra how to put this approach in place? Will we be > >> able > >> > to > >> > > > > create > >> > > > > > several additional repositories for extensions and release them > >> as > >> > > part > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > > the Ignite project? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > - > >> > > > > > Denis > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 7:18 PM Saikat Maitra < > >> > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi Denis, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yes, I see it now as I think more about it, I like option - > >> 0. I > >> > am > >> > > > > > > thinking from a new member and a contributor perspective for > >> > Ignite > >> > > > > > > project, I would very much like my PR and proposal to be > >> accepted > >> > > > > within > >> > > > > > > Ignite community. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards, > >> > > > > > > Saikat > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:56 PM Denis Magda < > >> dma...@apache.org> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Exactly, Dmitry found the right word for the reason why > >> > option-0 > >> > > > > might > >> > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > the best one - to avoid the Ignite community *split*. All > >> those > >> > > who > >> > > > > > will > >> > > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > contributing to integrations and extensions need to be able > >> to > >> > > > earn a > >> > > > > > > > status of an Ignite committer and PMC members. Otherwise, > >> I'm > >> > not > >> > > > > sure > >> > > > > > if > >> > > > > > > > Emmanouil and others to come will be fully involved in the > >> > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > community. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Saikat, Emmanouil, what do you think if to look from this > >> > > > > perspective? > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > - > >> > > > > > > > Denis > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:04 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > >> > > > dpav...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hah, IMHO, it is a story of how pushing others to place > >> their > >> > > > > > > > contribution > >> > > > > > > > > outside ASF could lead projects to split their > >> communities. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I believe, the Ignite community is more open and flexible > >> in > >> > > that > >> > > > > > > regard. > >> > > > > > > > > So Option-0. is also OK from my perspective. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > чт, 24 окт. 2019 г. в 04:01, Saikat Maitra < > >> > > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > >: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi, > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I looked into the way Apache Bahir manages their > >> extensions > >> > > for > >> > > > > > Spark > >> > > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > Flink and it looks like they are much independent in > >> terms > >> > of > >> > > > > > > managing > >> > > > > > > > > > their releases. They also have separate git repos for > >> > apache > >> > > > > bahir > >> > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > apache bahir-flink. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Releases : > >> > > > > > > > > > https://bahir.apache.org/downloads/spark/ > >> > > > > > > > > > https://bahir.apache.org/downloads/flink/ > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Repos : > >> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/bahir > >> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/bahir-flink > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I am thinking if we are following the similar pattern we > >> > can > >> > > > > > create a > >> > > > > > > > > > separate git repo under the Org apache / > >> ignite-extentions > >> > or > >> > > > > > apache > >> > > > > > > / > >> > > > > > > > > > bahir-ignite. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If most of our integrations are data streaming > >> connectors > >> > > that > >> > > > we > >> > > > > > are > >> > > > > > > > > most > >> > > > > > > > > > interested to migrate to separate repository then > >> joining > >> > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > Bahir > >> > > > > > > > > > project and managing independent release cycle will > >> benefit > >> > > us > >> > > > as > >> > > > > > it > >> > > > > > > > will > >> > > > > > > > > > help foster cross community engagement and support. The > >> > > purpose > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > Bahir > >> > > > > > > > > is > >> > > > > > > > > > also to host such extensions as ours. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I was reading this news article and it resonated similar > >> > > ideas > >> > > > > that > >> > > > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > > have > >> > > > > > > > > > specific to managing release cycles > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > https://thenewstack.io/apache-bahir-gives-spark-extensions-new-home/ > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please review and share your feedback. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > >> > > > > > > > > > Saikat > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 4:29 PM Denis Magda < > >> > > dma...@apache.org > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How about considering the option Dmitriy named as "0. > >> > > placing > >> > > > > > > > > integration > >> > > > > > > > > > > in a separate module within space of Apache Ignite"? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Nothing prevents us from following concepts of Bahir > >> > > project > >> > > > in > >> > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > sense > >> > > > > > > > > > > that we'll be creating and managing separate > >> repositories > >> > > for > >> > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > extensions/modules but those will be governed by the > >> > Ignite > >> > > > > > > community > >> > > > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > > all the contributors to the extensions will be > >> becoming > >> > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > committers > >> > > > > > > > > > > and PMC members. The more I think about this approach > >> the > >> > > > more > >> > > > > I > >> > > > > > > like > >> > > > > > > > > it. > >> > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > - > >> > > > > > > > > > > Denis > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov < > >> > > > > > > dpav...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Saikat, Alexey, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Actually we have 3 ways to solve it. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 0. placing integration in a separate module within > >> > space > >> > > of > >> > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Apache Bahir > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Apache Incubator > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if option 2 is the best one since it is > >> > more > >> > > > > about > >> > > > > > > > > > building > >> > > > > > > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > new community around Ignite Extensions, it may be > >> > tricky. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > But 0 and 1 seem to be perfectly OK. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > And I like option 1 most since it is very natural to > >> > move > >> > > > > > > > > Ignite-Kafka, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite-Camel to a separate project specially > >> intended > >> > for > >> > > > > > > > > integration. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > So if we stay with option 1 I would be glad to help. > >> > > Count > >> > > > on > >> > > > > > my > >> > > > > > > > > > support > >> > > > > > > > > > > > within the migration to Apache Bahir. Inter-project > >> > > > > interaction > >> > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > integration are usually welcomed in the ASF. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 23 окт. 2019 г. в 09:31, Alexey Zinoviev < > >> > > > > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > >: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, dear Saikat Maitra, could you please > >> describe > >> > how > >> > > > you > >> > > > > > see > >> > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > release cycles in Bahir Ignite Extensions and how > >> it > >> > be > >> > > > > > related > >> > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > release, 2.9, 3.0 for example. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your energy > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 23 окт. 2019 г., 8:10 Alexey Zinoviev < > >> > > > > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > >: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Please, give me permissions too, I'd glad to help > >> > with > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > > > > > modules > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> migration and support part of them in future, but > >> > also > >> > > > we > >> > > > > > need > >> > > > > > > > not > >> > > > > > > > > > > only > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> contributor but a few Committer permissions to > >> merge > >> > > In > >> > > > > > > > repository > >> > > > > > > > > > in > >> > > > > > > > > > > > other > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> side it could be very long proccess. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Could you ask Bahir Community about that? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> ср, 23 окт. 2019 г., 2:31 Saikat Maitra < > >> > > > > > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > >: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I discussed with Apache Bahir community and they > >> > are > >> > > > > > > interested > >> > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > have > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Apache Ignite extensions as part of Apache Bahir > >> > > > project. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I have also requested for contributor access in > >> > Jira > >> > > > for > >> > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > Bahir > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> project so that I can create issues and assign > >> to > >> > > > > myself. I > >> > > > > > > can > >> > > > > > > > > > help > >> > > > > > > > > > > > with > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> code reviews as well. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Also my thoughts on releases specific to > >> > dependencies > >> > > > for > >> > > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> is > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to do a fast follow up release for modules > >> based on > >> > > > > latest > >> > > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> stable release. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Here is the email thread for reference > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@bahir.apache.org/msg02703.html > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I wanted to connect and get feedback on the > >> > proposal > >> > > > and > >> > > > > if > >> > > > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > > are > >> > > > > > > > > > ok > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> move the following Apache Ignite Extensions > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-36%3A+Modularization#IEP-36:Modularization-IndependentIntegrations > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Saikat > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:44 PM Saikat Maitra < > >> > > > > > > > > > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Hello, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > We wanted to discuss on a proposal to move and > >> > > > support > >> > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > integrations as separate Ignite Extensions as > >> > > > discussed > >> > > > > > > here > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Pub-Sub-Streamer-Implementation-td43944.html > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > . > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > The reason we wanted to move our Apache Ignite > >> > > > > > integration > >> > > > > > > as > >> > > > > > > > > > > > separate > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Extensions is this will help us to manage and > >> > > > maintain > >> > > > > > > > separate > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> lifecycle > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > for Apache Ignite integrations. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > All the integrations will continue to be part > >> of > >> > > ASF > >> > > > > and > >> > > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > > will > >> > > > > > > > > > > > keep > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > supporting and developing in accordance with > >> ASF > >> > > > vision > >> > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > practices. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > We are considering following two choices for > >> > moving > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Extensions: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > 1. Reach out to Apache Bahir community and > >> > propose > >> > > to > >> > > > > > make > >> > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Extensions a separate module as part of Apache > >> > > Bahir > >> > > > > > > project. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > https://bahir.apache.org/ > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces96 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > 2. Reach out to Apache Incubator community and > >> > > > request > >> > > > > > for > >> > > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > > new > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> project > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > for Ignite Extensions. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Please review and share feedback on our > >> proposal. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Warm Regards, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > Saikat > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > -- Best regards, Ivan Pavlukhin
